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Prohibition in the... what???

Why is this article about prohibition of musical instruments when it is about anasheed. That topic is worth being displayed in it's own section or a different article completely.
Sun NY (talk) 02:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree. This article reads more like a discussion of islamic rulings, than an article on islamic culture. How about a section on the modern impact of Anasheeds, or on the first ever nasheed? Come on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.111.179.214 (talk) 20:19, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree too. Also problematic is the article seems to strongly push a minority viewpoint as the norm. Al-Azhar^[1] and Qaradhawi^[2] disagree on the claim that music is haram, so exactly which major mainstream Sunni institution (non-Salafi) supports this? And why then is the minority (Salafi?) view presented as the norm again?

Article also does original research by giving its own interpretation of the "silk, adultery and musical instruments" hadith, an interpretation not accepted by the Sunni establishment (see fatwas above).

Anybody familiar with Muslim cultures realise that obviously most Muslims through history didn't see music as 'haram'. Why also is it that the use of instruments is presented as a 'modern' innovation when they were heavily used even in religious service until the collapse of the traditional Islamic orders in the 20th C.?

Sometimes it feels like Wikipedia lets the fundamentalists impose their revisionist views on every single Islam-related article, it's a real shame. 183.89.33.130 (talk) 00:40, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Music being Haram the generally accepted view. The vast majority of Islamic scholars deem music in general to be Haram. This is not the Salafis taking over the internet - this is basic Islamic fiqh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.1.32.142 (talk) 11:09, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

Move article

This page and the page titled Nasheed should merge under the term Anasheed. Anasheed is a more correct title.

Move to Islamic music

There is a nasheed section in the "Islamic Music" article, which is much more comprehensive. I believe that this stub should be moved there.

Absolutely. This entry is not only poorly written, the subject matter belongs in the larger article.Jemiljan (talk) 22:42, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nashid نشيد is singular in Arabic Anashid أناشيدis plural... AnonMoos (talk) 14:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. It does not make sense to why the plural of the word is the title of the page. Would it make sense to title the page song as songs (notice how "songs" redirects to "song").
Sun NY (talk) 03:05, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. I don't think this article should be merge with any other article. Anasheed is different than Islamic music. Second their is no such thing that exist in Islam call music though Anasheed does exist. Anasheed is mainly vocal singing. For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS88D5mA8BY MahdiTheGuidedOne (talk) 05:38, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?

I don't think this article should be merge with any other article. Anasheed is different than Islamic music. Second their is no such thing that exist in Islam call music though Anasheed does exist. Anasheed is mainly vocal singing. MahdiTheGuidedOne (talk) 05:38, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Citation needed for English word:

Taken from the top of the article:

Citation needed for the english word anasheed with plural anasheeds. When looking at the Arab word that seems retarded (well, 'murica...) as Anāshīd is a plural. islamicvideonasheds.blogspot.com uses the english word nasheed with plural nasheeds.
Also the Arab words became nashīd and Anāshīd in Latin letters - shouldn't it be Nashīd and Anāshīd, or nashīd and anāshīd?

--Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: move the page, per the discussion below; history retained. Dekimasuよ! 02:06, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anasheed → Nasheed – WP:PLURAL and WP:UCRN.
Nasheed it the singular form of the word.

Anasheed gets "About 633,000 results" in Google video.
Nasheed gets "About 5,270,000 results" in Google video.

Gregkaye ✍♪ 09:47, 3 November 2014 (UTC) Gregkaye ✍♪ 09:47, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If these facts are correct then I support the move.~Technophant (talk) 10:16, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Significant history (including content merged here) at the proposed target. Dekimasuよ! 02:29, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Danish

Assalamu alikum oh rahmatullahi barakathu Qari Shab. How are you? What are your plan? I read the Quran sharif

Production of nasheed by daesh

this is not correct Islamic state do not produce their nasheeds directly from their military they have a nasheed groups which is a record label isis influences which is their musical propaganda wing... to specify it coming from isis directly is a lack of detail e.g. (al-hayat media center)

 Medan.786 khan (talk) 04:26, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source confirming your claims? If so, can you please provide? Meatsgains^(talk) 16:43, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 11 January 2024

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The result of the move request was: Request initiated by block evading sockpuppet, no other supporters (non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs (talk) 18:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nasheed → Nashid – per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Arabic: "Nashid" is fully in line with the 'basic transcription' used throughout Wikipedia for Arabic article titles. What we call 'full transliteration' (which would be "Nashīd" according to Wikipedia's standards, never "Nasheed") is usually only reserved for the first mention in the lead. The origins of this accepted practice may be found in that Wikipedians generally dislike special characters in article titles (cf. WP:TITLESPECIALCHARACTERS), and so decided to dispense in article titles not only with stuff like ʿ for ʿayn but with all special formatting found in 'full transliteration'. Kermanshehi (talk) 15:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttps://islamictext.wordpress.com/music-azhar-fatwa/

[2] ttps://islamictext.wordpress.com/on-music-and-singing-fatwa-by-shaykh-yusuf-al-qaradawi/

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