Talk:Star Wars (disambiguation)
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The Star Wars Saga
[edit]Even though it is obvious, The Wookieepedian claims that the Saga is also all the novels, comics, and video games. Well, that is not part of the "Saga", that is the Expanded universe. Copperchair 06:03, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- Copperchair, do you even know what the definition of a saga is? It is a long narrative. Now, this can work for any long story. The Star Wars story is made up of films, books, comics, games. All of this makes up a very, very long, narrative about the history of the star wars galaxy. It fits the definition if you ask me. The Wookieepedian 07:41, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with Copperchair; The star wars databank has seperate tabs for movies and expanded universe--If Lucas counts them seperately, we should too. Besides, most definitions of 'saga' define it as singular & focused, while the expanded universe deals with many smaller, varied stories. Citizen Premier 08:39, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, the EU and the films are two divisions of Star Wars. But, together they form one complete (albeit gigantic) story, which fits the definition of a saga. Actually, the six films could as well, but since the entire story is larger with the EU, well... The Wookieepedian 08:46, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- Wiktionary defines "saga" as "an epic; a long story." The EU is composed of corollories to that story. Exempli Gratia, "Beowulf" is a saga but the modern novel "Grendel" is not part of that saga, but rather an addition. Citizen Premier 10:33, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, the EU and the films are two divisions of Star Wars. But, together they form one complete (albeit gigantic) story, which fits the definition of a saga. Actually, the six films could as well, but since the entire story is larger with the EU, well... The Wookieepedian 08:46, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with Copperchair; The star wars databank has seperate tabs for movies and expanded universe--If Lucas counts them seperately, we should too. Besides, most definitions of 'saga' define it as singular & focused, while the expanded universe deals with many smaller, varied stories. Citizen Premier 08:39, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
But, the EU doesn't "retell" the story like Grendel. It is considered a continuation of the story that started in the films. Together, it all is supposed to function as one story. The Wookieepedian 10:48, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with The Wookieepedian. There's certainly no sense in having 2 bullet points for one franchise. Because Star Wars isn't just the films and the EU. It's also all of the out of continuity marketing stuff and the fandom. -LtNOWIS 18:08, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
- And besides, the main Star Wars page links to the Expanded Universe article, anyway. The Wookieepedian 22:48, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
What do you think? E Pluribus Anthony 19:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
what the flurp
[edit]this page is so outdated —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dude867 (talk • contribs) 09:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
What not to list
[edit]Only the 1977 film should be listed as only that anybody actually calls "Star Wars". Per MOS:DAB, the only things to list on a dab page are things that are sometimes referred to by the specific name of the page, or a redirect or hatnote which links to the page, or something so similar as to be likely to be be confused. Nobody could reasonably type in "Star Wars" and expect to get to "The Empire Strikes Back". If someone wants a complete list of all the films they can get that at the Star Wars article; it belongs there, not on a dab page. jnestorius(talk) 17:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Totally disagree with not listing here. This is the point of disambiuation. They are all "Star Wars" and should all be locatable from this page. Cheers, an happy editing.17:45, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, that's not the point of disambiguation. If you want a list of everything-to-do-with-Star Wars, then go to Star Wars, or Category:Star Wars, or {{Star Wars}}. This page is for things that are called "Star Wars". Nobody calls "Return of the Jedi" "Star Wars", so it doesn't belong here; likewise for the other four movies, most of the video games, etc. jnestorius(talk) 15:04, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Um, all the star wars films now are listed on WP with the initial title "Star Wars", thus, since this is the way the films are officially titled, they should all be on this page. Now, as a crotchety old timer who waited in line 6 times to see the original, and barfed my way through each sequel, I KNOW the only film called star wars is the first one. but im a voice crying in the wilderness, so I will add the 5 films here. the younguns' need to be able to quickly distinguish them, and this is the place to do so.(mercurywoodrose)75.61.135.68 (talk) 05:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
- Nope, that's not the point of disambiguation. If you want a list of everything-to-do-with-Star Wars, then go to Star Wars, or Category:Star Wars, or {{Star Wars}}. This page is for things that are called "Star Wars". Nobody calls "Return of the Jedi" "Star Wars", so it doesn't belong here; likewise for the other four movies, most of the video games, etc. jnestorius(talk) 15:04, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
This issue has come up again with respect to WP:PTM guidelines that says "Do not add a link that merely contains part of the page title, or a link that includes the page title in a longer proper name, where there is no significant risk of confusion or reference.
". I fail to see how removing most of the film section in any way makes this page more useful and the justification for doing so would also clear out most of the other sections of this article as well. Those films listed are not "merely containing part of a page title". Most of those films are known as "Star Wars" with some variations. There is significant risk of confusion as to which film is meant. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- Indeed. The point of the rule about not adding a link "that merely contains part of the page title" is to prevent the disambiguation page growing too large. I can see the reasoning in not listing every Star Wars movie, but it is not unreasonable for this page to link to a separate list of the theatrical films. I propose that there should be one additional link under the film section, either to Star_Wars#Theatrical_films or to List of Star Wars films and television series. This is one link which is not detrimental to the disambiguation page and only serves to add usefulness to the reader. It's simply counterintuitive to list some rather obscure Expanded Universe spin-offs and fail to offer some sort of link to the actual movies called Star Wars, simply to satisfy Wikipedia rules. Cnbrb (talk) 14:54, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Star Wars, US comic
[edit]the US star wars comic book adaption and ongoing original stories was one of the first ancillary products, and according to one source on WP, the product that kept Marvel Comics alive in the late 70's early 80's. i normally dont link to article sections on disambig pages, but this series absolutely deserves an article of its own. roy thomas and howard chaykin did the first adaption. i suspect mint condition of the original 6 go for quite a bit. I may try to create the article.(mercurywoodrose)75.61.135.68 (talk) 06:03, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
So outdated, please help and get everything canonical Star Wars
[edit]Ok, this is going to be a huge project, but someone needs to make a Star Wars: Legends Disambiguation, or find one and put it in the books section, this is hard. There is a youtube video about all the canon comics and books that you can easily find. Thenorthgoingzax (talk) 21:35, 14 December 2019 (UTC)