Talk:Toropets depot explosions

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Just minutes ago. Yug (talk) 🐲 12:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for doing that and creating an article. After I had expanded the sections and sources on the attack in the article on the town, I had thought that such a massive set of explosions with large secondary effects probably deserved an article on the event itself, which some news sources are saying may be the largest single explosion during the entire Russo-Ukrainian War. N2e (talk) 14:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello N2e. I though the same, with the main explosion nearly as powerful as the 2020 Beirut explosion or the Toulouse chemical factory explosion, I expected it to be in front page of several Wikipedias as those events were. Shockingly, it is not. And shockingly, it means medias and the wikipedians (!) now accept those events as normal. They are not. Yug (talk) 🐲 18:04, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-attack analysis

The early post-attack analysis, by real military analysts, is beginning to come in. This one is significant: Sentinel-2 satellite imagery confirms the destruction of the majority of ECMs from the 107th Arsenal of the GRAU in Toropets. This has enabled a more comprehensive BDA to be possible. 1/7. BDA is battle damage assessment. And there are seven more bits of analysis in that post.

I would expect main line secondary source media sites to begin to publish fuller accounts in the coming days. And those, we will be able to use to improve the article. N2e (talk) 01:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Context

The article now states that "Following more than two years of war, Ukraine recently moved the conflict into Russian territories." But this kind of gives the impression that Ukraine did not attack targets within Russian territory until recently (Aug 2024 onwards?). On 25 Feb 2022, Ukraine attacked the Millerovo air base, which is located in Rostov Oblast in Russia. Maybe it should be re-worded into something along the lines of an increased amount of drone strikes/or the start of the incursion in Sudzha? Redbeansoup (talk) 07:15, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

US involvement. Missiles and imagery.

A drone? 300 miles north of the border? Not possible without satellite imagery and missiles. 2001:2020:4331:D925:2C98:2843:32E2:5B7 (talk) 19:50, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although this section could fall under WP:NOTFORUM (especially in the absense of cited WP:RS), I will note that high-resolution satellite imagery is available from commercial suppliers[1] and that Ukraine has its own jet-powered UCAV. Lklundin (talk) 21:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if it is possible to place the image at Commons, so it can be used in ruwiki? Clamdebut (talk) 08:48, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]