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== You are a sinner! ==
You accuse a Pastor of vandalizing for citing the Lord's Prayer? The devil has taken over your soul.--[[User:Pastor Terry-John|Pastor Terry-John]] ([[User talk:Pastor Terry-John|talk]]) 17:24, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 7,987 last month to 8,063 on March 30th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 52 is just behind WP:GM who have 55. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 44 out of a total number of 2,139 articles.
Currently we have eighteen Yorkshire featured articles:
No members left the project this month: though the number of
active members is currently low.
Thanks
A very big Thank you to all the editors who labour away quietly and help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Thanks to thos members that have been referencing the Biographies of Living People that was raised last month. We have cut the number of totally unreferenced articles to five.
To members who have added suggestions to the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal.
To the football and rugby editors who have done stirling work in keeping abreast of the top clubs.
To all the WikiProkject Yorkshire editors who have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist.
Great!
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Biographies of Living People
As a follow up to last month's feature on BLP articles a BOT is now creating project listings of those BLP articles that are tagged as totally unreferenced. The listing for our project can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/Unreferenced BLPs, I have added a link to this from the project side-bar for easy access to the listing. There are just five articles remaining on the list at the time of going to press, so well done.
General Election
The next General Election will be announced sometime during the month and so we need to concentrate our efforts on the articles relating to this. There are two main sets of articles relevant here, firstly the constituency articles and secondly the articles relating to the candidates that are standing for election. Taking the first group there are a number of boundary changes relating to the constituencies in the area that will be implemented at the time of the General Election. These changes need to be reflected into the settlement articles that are affected by the change. I would suggest that the settlement's history section is updated to include details of the former constituency when adding the new one so that information is not lost. All of the constituency articles will need to be kept up to date with the list of candidates that are standing for the election. Much of the basic work on this has been done but new candidates will emerge until the closing date for candidates to declare. Note that the order of candidates should be maintained in ballot paper order prior to the result being declared so that we do not favour any of the parties in the election. So even if A. Aardvark is standing for the "Lets do away with wiki" party then they should appear first regardless of if we support them or not.
On the second set of articles, those on candidates, we are back to issues relating to BLP, NPOV and to avoiding them, or their supporters, using wiki as an electioneering medium. We should be vigilant to remove anything that ventures into this area as quickly as possible. There may be articles for candidates who are standing that are not tagged for the project so it would be good for these to be tagged so we can keep an eye on them. It is also a good time to improve the articles on the candidates as they will no doubt get more hits during the election period. Those of you in the UK may also see some of the candidates out on the campaign trail and it would be good to get a photo for their article if possible. It does not have to be a Yorkshire related politician as there are lots of articles about politicians that needed photos or updates to dated images.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The April 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 23rd.
Monitoring is essential Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
Comments, questions and suggestions about this, or any, issue of the newsletter are always welcome and can be made by pressing the feedback button below...
I htink temporary rank should be there - RN stuff often appears only under initials, rather than full names, and for reasons best known to themselves the Admiralty often puts surname first. The process of converting the scanned image to text sometimes means that names get run together, so try searching on PrestonYoung for example. David Underdown (talk) 08:33, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, my grandfather's "promotion" from probationary temporary chaplain to temporary chaplain RNVR was gazetted, so I don't see any particular reason why these promotions shouldn't have been. Sometimes the conversion of the scanned image to text just doesn't work very well though, which unfortunately means its impossible to track down stuff you know msut be there. I might be able to look him up in the Navy List for you which should give the dates of rank. David Underdown (talk) 13:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
CSD
I declined your CSD tag on Crouch-DeVries because the context is very clear - it states it is a mixture of two surnames. I agree it's not notable, and furthermore that it may even be a hoax, but the context is certainly clear. I've WP:PRODded the article. We can AfD it if necessary. Frank | talk 16:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XLIX (March 2010)
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Thanks for the amend to the template on the Julian Bond page. I'm still new to the perl language and getting the hang of it. Your ref tables are very useful.
Cheers
Nitro-Burnin' Delaney 19:35, 19 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by NitroBurningDelaney (talk • contribs)
DYK for Edward Preston Young
On April 21, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Edward Preston Young, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
No problem. I hope we can get one launched. I'll keep an eye on the discussion and hopefully we'll get some more support for the idea. TheRetroGuy (talk) 11:08, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I personally wouldn't object to an Afd or prod deletion. I think there is marginal notability but I don't really feel strongly one way or the other. However I believe your speedy-A7 is technically inappropriate, because there is a credible claim of significance in the article. As I'm sure you're aware, an article doesn't have to prove notability to be immune from A7 - it only has to make a credible claim of significance.
Please don't take my removal of your speedy tag personally, and if you think I'm (still) wrong about this and you put it back, I won't object further :)
On April 26, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Women's Timber Corps, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : L (April 2010)
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Help Requested
Hey I was wondering how do I request that a page be locked? Im still kinda new to Wikipedia. So if you could tell me I'd appreciate it. And can I block others or can only administrators?MiamiFloridaBabii (talk) 20:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,063 last month to 8,082 on April 29th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 55 is just behind WP:GM who have 56. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 44 out of a total number of 2,161 articles.
Currently we have eighteen Yorkshire featured articles:
Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.
Article Activity
Bramhope Tunnel promoted to GA following review on April 2nd Tickle Cock Bridge was nominated, reviewed and promoted to GA on April 3rd Cottingley Fairies was nominated, reviewed and promoted to GA on April 27th
Member News
There are now 75 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the April newsletter:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Elections
The next General Election will take place this month as will the local elections in a number of areas in the region and so again this month we need to concentrate our efforts on the articles relating to these.
Last month I concentrated on the general election related articles in the run up to the announcement of the election. This month we need to concentrate on the aftermath of the election. The constituency articles are the first ones that need to be looked at and the results added to each of these. This gives us an opportunity to have some references on these pages as there will be extensive media coverage for the results. The articles relating to the set of new MPs will need to be updated to include details of their election victory and the office they take up in the new parliamentary session. At the same time those articles relating to politicians who loose their seat will need to be updated to cover this and to show the successor to the seat/office they held. Other articles that need to be looked at are the settlement articles to see if they need updating as a number of them mention the party that represent the place and some give details of the MPs that represent them.
As well as the general election there is also the local elections that are being held on the same day and again this needs to be looked at when updating the settlement articles as the council make up is often described in the governance section or given in the infobox. These elections will necessitate new articles creating for each of the councils that are holding elections to record the details of the election and the results. Others may generate these articles and members should tag these with the project tag {{WikiProject Yorkshire}} when they find them so that they can be tracked and are not forgotten about.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The April 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 23rd.
Monitoring is essential Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
Comments, questions and suggestions about this, or any, issue of the newsletter are always welcome and can be made by pressing the feedback button below...
Hi you popped over to Great House Barn article a while ago, I have made a couple of edits since - if you have a moment could you take another peek, (Rovington (talk) 06:38, 26 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]
The suggestions nd edits are great thanks, also a big thanks about how to use user space I did not know that could be done - great idea and an easier way of going about things, thanks for this and your help with the article. (Rovington (talk) 06:46, 29 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,082 last month to 8,202 on May 28th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 54 is just behind WP:GM who have 58. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 43 out of a total number of 2,182 articles.
Currently we have twenty Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Images
As a change from all the election related material this month I thought that we could look at images. With summer on its way in England then it is time to spend away from the computer and in the great outdoors. There are many events and places to visit so if you are taking time out at any of these then take along your camera and capture the scene. Then when back home you can upload the images to Commons so that they can be used on any of the projects run by the foundation. This is preferred to uploading just to Wikipedia as they are more widely available to other projects and save time of people having to make the transfer of suitable images. When uploading images to Commons then you need to categorise the image to enable it to be located easily and to group it with others of a similar theme. It is best to put it in a specific category, but if you cannot find one then pick the best fit you can and others will shift it around into more suitable categories. The process is similar to article categorisation and multiple categories can be added, as appropriate, but an image should not normally be placed in a category and one of it's sub-categories.
There are a number of articles requiring images and the Yorkshire related ones can be found here. Take a look before you go out as you may be able to fulfil one of the requests while out visiting.
If you locate an article that requires an image and no suitable image is available then add the {{reqphoto}} template to the article talk page to flag the article appropriately. If you want an image of a specific thing then you can use the of= parameter to give details. For example, if an interior shot is required of the building that is the subject of the article then use {{reqphoto|of=interior}}. You can narrow the image to a location by using the in= parameter, {{reqphoto|in=Yorkshire}} will request a photo in Yorkshire. If you use North Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire or the East Riding of Yorkshire in place of Yorkshire then it will categorise in the appropriate sub-category but will not show up in the request box. A way round this is to apply Yorkshire and the division to the request and they will show up but remain unlinked. So to a request an image in the East Riding of Yorkshire it may be best to use {{reqphoto|in=Yorkshire|in2=the East Riding of Yorkshire}} to show in the request box and classify it in both Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Yorkshire and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in the East Riding of Yorkshire.
For biographical articles the biography project template {{WPBiography}} has a needs-photo= parameter which should be set to yes if a photograph is required.
When adding an image to an article also check the talk page and remove the flags if the image fulfils the request.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The June 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 23rd.
Monitoring is essential Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
Comments, questions and suggestions about this, or any, issue of the newsletter are always welcome and can be made by pressing the feedback button below...
Hello, thanks for the comments. I've expanded on the University Boulevard by giving it its own sub-section. As for the new Central Business District, the northern part will be bordered by Broad Street and Warner Street, while the southern part will cover the area currently occupied by Hinde Street car park. If you knew of now-demolished Unity House and the (somewhat pointless) park and ride, it is pretty much the area covered by those. I've added a link to the city council's booklet on the CBD as a reference for the article. Thanks again, Andrew (talk) 15:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : LI (May 2010)
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Breach of Copyright
Hi your entire section on WWII is a copy of my copyright work from my book Cairo to Berlin. You do not have my permission to use it and I should like you to remove it please.
I really have no idea what you are talking about as a) you've not named an article and b) I don't possess a copy of the book mentioned so the chances of me using whole sections to insert in an article is reather small. As I have previously pointed out on your talk page, if you own a copyright and you think it has been violated you can remove the violating material yourself and just put a note in the edit summary. NtheP (talk) 18:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You are now a Reviewer
Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, is currently undergoing a two-month trial scheduled to end 15 August 2010.
Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under pending changes. Pending changes is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial. The list of articles with pending changes awaiting review is located at Special:OldReviewedPages.
When reviewing, edits should be accepted if they are not obvious vandalism or BLP violations, and not clearly problematic in light of the reason given for protection (see Wikipedia:Reviewing process). More detailed documentation and guidelines can be found here.
Hi, I see you made an edit on the Robin Spielberg page. There is a typo in the name "Spielberg" in the photo box. I am having trouble figuring out how to correct it. Can you help? There is a random letter "K" in the name...
Dear Nthep, I have reviewed the page 'Jonathan Fisher (lawyer)' and having researched the internet sources listed on the page, it is clear to me that all the information is correct and well substantiated. Would you kindly remove the warnings at the top of the page or explain any further issues you have. Natural born singer (talk) 14:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC) natural_born_singer[reply]
Thank you for your response. If you could remove the tag you added I would be grateful. I cannot work out who added the other tag. How do you suggest I go about removing the other tag? Natural born singer (talk) 18:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC) Natural Born Singer[reply]
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : LII (June 2010)
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,202 last month to 8,225 on June 21st). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 54 is just behind WP:GM who have 59. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 44 out of a total number of 2,193 articles.
Currently we have twenty Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Pending changes
The trial period for Pending Changes is under way and will last for two months. Initially this will be restricted to a pre-defined set of articles that are updated on a daily basis. The queue of articles for the trial is here. This involves a change to the article settings, similar to article protection, that allows edits by anonymous and non-autoconfirmed users to be delayed before going live. (It is possible to set it so that all edits need reviewing but this is not been used for the trial.) These edits will only go live when they have been reviewed by another user who has been granted the Reviewer user rights. Pages with revisions waiting review can be found here. A large number of the regular editors have been granted this privilege for the trial and if not it can be requested here. It is a good idea to have a look at the pages that have this applied so that you are clued up for the discussion following the trial. Those of you with one of the selected articles on their watchlist will get a notification at the top of the watchlist page when there are pending changes to an article on their watchlist.
Once the trial is over there will be a discussion on rolling the system out generally or to reject this method of handing changes. If you want more details on this then take a look at the help document.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The July 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 23rd.
Monitoring is essential Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
Comments, questions and suggestions about this, or any, issue of the newsletter are always welcome and can be made by pressing the feedback button below...
Thanks for helping on the tech issue. I'm on a computer where I can't see images at all, so honestly hadn't caught the photo issue. At this point I'm just trying to get stubs of all the Chaco War articles going, with the "expand Spanish" tag to let folks know there are reams of written text over at es.wiki. Unfortunately, most of them are derived from a dead-tree book, so hard to do any footnoting or expansion, but I figure just getting decent stubs up at least establishes some content tree. Thanks for the pic help! MatthewVanitas (talk) 12:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer it as an article on its own - if you check google hits etc. there's plenty of coverage of it, so I'll revert the redirect and add a little more content. Blest Withouten Match (talk) 14:42, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Nthep . Thanks for the speedy deletion work you are doing! I did want to let you know, though, regarding Bloody GIR Easter Egg, that current consensus holds that it is bad practice to tag articles for speedy deletion as lacking context (CSD A1) or content (CSD A3) moments after creation, as users may be actively working on the article content. Ten to fifteen minutes is considered a good time to wait before tagging such articles under either of these criteria. Please note that before an appropriate waiting period is over, the articles should not be marked as patrolled, so that the wait does not result in the article escaping review at a later time. Nothing here is meant to apply to any other criterion; attack pages and copyright violations especially should be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks. Salvio (Let's talk 'bout it!) 12:51, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,225 last month to 8,254 on July 28th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 56 is just behind WP:GM who have 59. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 44 out of a total number of 2,201 articles.
Currently we have twenty Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Maps
This month I thought that I would focus on the current discussions over the maps used in infoboxes for UK articles.
Firstly an initiative by user Nilfanion (talk) is currently under way on producing map data for the whole of the UK. The maps would cover all counties, wards, civil parishes etc. and be derived from the Ordnance Survey OpenData release. Further details can be seen here where feedback would be appreciated on two specific concerns—the colour scheme and line thickness. Discussion is also taking place as to what features to include on the maps, such as rivers, roads and railways.
Second discussion here on another alternative for mapping data changes to existing maps in infoboxes for districts, boroughs and cities in the UK.
Thirdly a discussion on Wales maps in place infoboxes is under way here, which has branched out into a general discussion on the initiative by user Nilfanionhere.
It would be good if members take time to have a look at these various proposals and comment, where they feel they have some input to offer, as these proposals could potentially affect all of the UK articles with maps in their infoboxes. If you do not speak now then you will have to put up with the results!
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The August 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 23rd.
Monitoring is essential Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
Comments, questions and suggestions about this, or any, issue of the newsletter are always welcome and can be made by pressing the feedback button below...