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I-485 review[edit]

Hi there, Bneu. I noticed you immediately failed my GA nom for the article. However, in my opinion, I feel that the close was a bit too hasty. Here's what I think.

1. About 2 to 3 months ago, you told me you thought the I-40 and I-85 articles weren't ready because they don't satisfy criterion 3. I looked at the criterion, and found a citation saying, The "broad in its coverage" is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles. It allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics. I noticed that you told me to look at the I-40 TN article, which was an FA, but I don't think that it was a reasonable comparison since good articles don't have to meet the FA criteria, which are generally more demanding.

2. You had also given some issues that needed to be addressed. I'm usually quick to respond to comments from other editors, so I'm sure I would have been able to fix these issues before the review was closed. In defense, I think it was a little... unfair to close it a little early as it's easy for me to address the issues.

I'll probably reach out to the others on the GA talk page, but let me know your thoughts. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 12:21, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@NoobThreePointOh: - Sorry for the late response, I'm not as active as I used to be. While GAs don't need to be as broad as FAs, they still shouldn't be lacking of any important detail. As I mentioned, this article is lacking information about it's planning and background. Based on the other feedback I gave, I think the article also fails 1 and 2b, the latter almost exclusively due to dead links. The article isn't far from meeting the GA criteria, but still needs some work. If you disagree, with my closure, you can bring it up at WT:GA. Finally, I am aware that finding information about the history of roads, especially pre-construction history, can be difficult. I mentioned EIS's as a possible source, and if you don't have a subscription to Newspapers.com, I can do research for you. But don't give up; we've lost too many road editors in recent years, and don't need to lose any more. Bneu2013 (talk) 14:10, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, at least there's eh... a bit of a chance. I can try and fix the issues you mentioned. I'm actually in a different country on vacation right now, so my time zone is different, but for most of the time, I'm usually active. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 14:21, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I suggest fixing the major issues I raised before renominating. You don't have to deal with all of the minor ones. Also, let me know if you need any articles from Newspapers.com clipped. You can search and view raw text without a subscription; you just can't view PDFs of the articles. 14:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC) Bneu2013 (talk) 14:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'll let you know whenever I can. I might be able to fix those issues on the 16th, since most of the time here, I'm not on the computer. 16th will definitely be a free day for me though. 👍 NoobThreePointOh (talk) 14:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bneu2013 Also yeah, I may need an article from Newspapers.com. I can't really find a source for the beltway lying around Mecklenburg County. There was a site when I searched online, but it comes from the AARoads Wiki, which is obviously a wiki. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 14:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An NCDOT map of Mecklenburg County should work. You can also use this to cite the route description. Alternatively, you could use a state road atlas like DeLorme. Bneu2013 (talk) 15:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. It seems that there's a lot of sources to look at. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 16:10, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newspapers.com[edit]

I might need your help on Newspapers.com. Since I don't have a subscription (maybe might buy one in the future), do you think you could find anything about I-85's history in NC and the incidents and closures? I can't seem to find sources like that from NCDOT (I can mainly just only find about the widening from I-485). If you find any articles from Newspapers, you can let me know. Thanks. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 07:17, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I will take a look in a little while. Bneu2013 (talk) 01:32, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically the article I was viewing was a February 6, 1984 issue of the Salisbury Post on page 14. The headline of the story was "Indians tied trees in knots as markers". NoobThreePointOh (talk) 03:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is [1]. Newspaper title is Salisbury Evening Post, and page number is 6B. Bneu2013 (talk) 04:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'll let you know if I need more. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 04:24, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@NoobThreePointOh: check out WP:TWL for options to access Newspapers.com. Imzadi 1979 → 05:04, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Imzadi1979 Yeah, I figured out how to access it yesterday. Only thing I need is clippings, since I don't have a subscription and a bot came and removed the library links. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 05:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you register an account, and then access the site through WP:TWL, you can then sign in from the landing page from WP:TWL and make clippings. Imzadi 1979 → 05:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. Ok. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 05:27, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oop, I went there and access is currently unavailable for some bizarre reason. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 05:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newspapers isn't even letting me log in. It's telling me "There was an error when loading the form. Please contact customer support." I think the site could be broken right now. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 05:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you try to log in through The Wikipedia Library? If you have an account and login through the site, there shouldn't be a problem. Also, I'm pretty sure you still have to have a subscription to clip articles. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:14, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, when I logged in through TWL, it allows me to read the articles for free. It doesn't let me take clippings of the articles, though, as it tells me I need to register an account. Probably it does require a subscription, but I don't know. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 07:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@NoobThreePointOh: - If you have any articles, please send them to me, and I will clip them. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:37, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. It's going to be a little hard trying to find the construction of I-85, but I'll do my best. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 07:46, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another one: https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/image/619919532/?match=1&terms=Interstate%2085. The section is, "Highway Fencing On 85 Under Way." NoobThreePointOh (talk) 05:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The other one is https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/image/619970917/?match=1&terms=Interstate%2085. The section is "Real Hunk Of Highway—That's 85." NoobThreePointOh (talk) 07:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And the last one I can think of so far is https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/image/619958269/?match=1&terms=Interstate%2085. The section is "85 Link May Open December 1". NoobThreePointOh (talk) 08:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the true last one: https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/image/942398046/?match=1&terms=Interstate%2085%20accident. The section is "3 family members killed in accident on I-85". That's all of the citations I need. Hopefully this doesn't tire you out. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 11:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]