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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Idoghor Melody,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Idoghor Melody,

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello Idoghor Melody,

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

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Draft and article review

Hello there, I hope you're doing well. saw that you marked my new article Merry Men 3 as reviewed Thanks . Could you please take a moment to review the attached drafts? some of them already accepted but not been marked as reviewed They've been pending for some time without being reviewed, accepted, or rejected. Draft:Ayden Mayeri , Royalty Hightower,Draft:Hounds of War, Draft:Lobola Man, Yhemolee ,Caoilinn Springall. Afro 📢Talk! 18:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Afrowriter, good morning from this end. My day have got a busy start, but I'll surely take a look at them later in the day. Do have a good day ahead. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 05:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Idoghor Melody Hello, good morning from this side as well! Thank you, and I hope you have a wonderful day too! 😀😀 Afro 📢Talk! 06:00, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Afrowriter, all done.

Done Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 11:57, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Idoghor Melody wow thanks this means alot Thank you very much Afro 📢Talk! 12:00, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Church of the Nativity of the Theotokos, Zabrđe

Dear Comr Melody Idoghor. Thank you for your message and for reviewing the article on Church of the Nativity of the Theotokos, Zabrđe. I understand your concerns regarding the need for additional sources, but I would like to emphasize that the notability of this church is based not only on the specific sources currently cited in the article but also on its general significance. I do not intend to make any major changes to the article, as I believe the subject is clearly notable and meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. I therefore have resubmitted the article for review, but of course, if you feel that this topic does not meet the necessary standards, I understand that someone may feel the need to make the decision to delete it as an irrelevant cultural topic. Thank you again for your time and consideration.--MirkoS18 (talk) 14:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MirkoS18, thank you for your reply and for understanding my concerns about the Church of the Nativity of the Theotokos, Zabrđe article which I moved to draft space. While I appreciate your belief in the church's significance, Wikipedia's notability guidelines require that subjects be backed by reliable, independent, and secondary sources that offer more comprehensive coverage beyond local or self-published references. Currently, the article doesn't quite meet these criteria, as the sources cited did not provide the in-depth coverage necessary to establish notability on a broader scale. Notability isn't just about the subject's importance but also about the availability of verifiable and independent sources to back that claim. As you've submitted the article for review, a reviewer will take a look and make a decision. If more reliable sources are found in the future, they can always be added. Thank you once again for your contributions and understanding. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 15:26, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply. I just want to point out that there is nothing explicitly making local sources automatically non-reliable. They can be perfectly reliable, independent and often provide more in depth insight. My belief on significance is specifically and directly linked to WP Notability and the fact that notability is NOT to be established only based on references actually used in the article but on online and offline independent sources available. This 18th century church, probably protected cultural heritage, therefore seems clearly notable for a stand alone article. This for more "for the record" and it's now up to other editors and their private decision. Greetings.--MirkoS18 (talk) 18:19, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MirkoS18, you are absolutely right that local sources can indeed be reliable, especially when they offer depth and insight that larger publications might overlook. However, to meet Wikipedia's notability criteria, the subject must have received significant coverage in reliable, independent sources that are not closely affiliated with the subject. Even though not all references need to be online, they should demonstrate the broader recognition of the church’s historical or cultural significance. BTW, while reviewing the article, I searched for sources online but didn’t find anything at all. If there are offline sources, such as books or newspapers, that you’re aware of but haven’t included, why not add them to the article? Instead of just arguing that the article is notable, providing those sources would help support your claims of notability. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 19:56, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't call it arguing but if you see it that way I can refrain from further dialogue on this particular topic. I fully understand that you simply made the nomination in good intention and being fully entitled to question the topic. My important point is that notability is not established by the sources used in article alone but at least in principle should be judged in general, by all online and offline sources in all languages - in practice, an impossible individual but imaginable collective task. As you can see I already included some new online sources. I understand it can be tricky for you to identify relevant sources considering potential absence of native language skills and search engine geographical variances in feedback. That's why I decided to spend some additional time to help in establishing clearly existing reliability of the topic (sorry if it sounds a bit rude on my side when I say it this way, it simply seems absurdly obvious to me the topic is notable and then understandably a bit annoying to spend more time on it and the whole draft submission process... but if the notability is not clearly obvious to someone I can see how it may look and I will therefore limit further exchanges on this particular topic to avoid being misunderstood). Of course, there are offline sources as well that would require a lot of further research I cannot afford at the moment as I visited this region twice in my life so far.--MirkoS18 (talk) 20:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I noticed you're working on adding new sources, which is why I moved the article to the draft space instead of nominating it for deletion. If you improve the sources further, I’m confident that future reviewers won’t raise the same concerns I’ve mentioned. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 20:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MirkoS18 I’ve now accepted your article. I appreciate the effort you’ve put into improving it and addressing the feedbacks. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 06:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am very glad that concerns over notability were addressed and I want to thank you for your appreciation of my additional efforts to explicitly clarify the situation.--MirkoS18 (talk) 06:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Subject

Hi I want ask you something about this content can you check then your idea please

thank you man Inlovewithjournalism (talk) 14:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Inlovewithjournalism. Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed the article you linked. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to meet our notability guidelines. Notability is a key requirement for inclusion on Wikipedia, and it ensures that topics have received significant coverage in reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. To improve the article, I recommend providing references from reputable sources that demonstrate the subject's broader impact or significance. And don't forget that articles must be written from a neutral point of view. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 15:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from FastAsFlood (20:41, 18 October 2024)

Hello mentor. How are you feeling today? --FastAsFlood (talk) 20:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @FastAsFlood, I am very well, thank you. Welcome to Wikipedia, is there any way I can help you? Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 03:45, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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