Wikipedia talk:Image renaming

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See the section "How do I do this" for more info

Instructions

{{rename media}}: request a rename. Will categorise into Category:Media requiring renaming if a new name is given, into Category:Media renaming requests if the template has been filled out incorrectly.

Requests for access

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Administrative notes

Image-renaming related pages are categorized in Category:Image renaming

Pages on Commons

{{editprotected}} Please add links to the approval/description pages at commons, i.e. commons:Commons:MediaMoveBot/CheckPage and commons:Commons:MediaMoveBot respectively. Thanks. MER-C 07:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done ~Kylu (u|t) 03:32, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification?

Call me silly but I thought that a page titled Image renaming would provide instructions on how to list an image for renaming (explicitly with examples), when to do so, why this may be a good/bad thing and what happens when you do as well as allowing users to request the ability to do all this. Does the bot just re-upload the image under the new name? does it carry all the templates etc across? does it carry the upload and editing history across (or does it need to)? does it delete the old image or CSD it? does it do the same for the talk pages? does it automatically update all pages that use the image or does someone have to follow it up themselves? It may be beneficial to add some of this to the page just to clarify what's happening. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 07:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ask Betacommand about how picky the bot is about the page contents first, and if the checkpage itself can be differently named (or Betacommand could just reply here...), as I know the bot reads the page to validate the checkpage.

Actually, it occurs to me that the ideal situation would be to simply make the checkpage a subpage with only the user list, then simply transclude it onto the Wikipedia:Image renaming page, that way it can be fully editable. I like that idea better, but I really do want to make sure it won't break the bot and cause it to go renaming images and blowing up BC's computer first. :D ~Kylu (u|t) 22:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

dont worry about breaking the bot, Ive not started re-naming images yet. I need more tagged first. β^_command 22:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the checkpage is on Wikipedia:Image renaming/checkpage now, so the main page can be edited again. Better solution. :)

From what I understand, the bot downloads the image file, reuploads it to the new location with all templates and the original upload history as text, and marks the old location as a duplicate image CSD.

English Wikipedia is very strict on adminbots, so I doubt that an image-move bot would never get community approval. I don't think it does automatic updating of linked pages, though that would not be difficult. ~Kylu (u|t) 23:05, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to figure out how to learn it too, without any real directions. I added to my monobook the upload changer thingy. I think that's what it's called. But, I'm afraid I'll break something and get banned for life. ←Gee♥Alice 23:25, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dont worry about it, no one is going to be banned. just use {{rename media|new image.jpg}} the bot will then re-upload the image to the title given. β^_command 23:43, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

lol, I was being melodramatic about the banning. My main and only concern is breaking something, and/or doing something wrong that may be difficult to undue. I'll just continue doing what I've been doing until I'm more confortable and sure that I can do it correctly. (perfectly) :) ←Gee♥Alice —Preceding comment was added at 00:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Will this also take over from {{ifr}} and help clear out Category:Images for renaming? I'm hoping so. Also should users remove the ifr template when nominating or will the bot do that? Nanonic (talk) 08:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nanonic, ifr should be replaced with the request to rename, as they serve the same purpose. β^_command 16:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can this be used on other wikis?

I'm an admin on the YPPedia, the wiki for the Yohoho! Puzzle Pirates community. We have oodles of user generated artwork along with numerous screenshots and illustrations from the game itself being uploaded every day. While a lot of it does follow guidelines for naming the stuff that doesn't is often left behind while work continues on other administrative tasks. What I've seen of this project so far is really impressive - it adds a much missed function of Mediawiki to the administrator's toolbox.

Is it possible to set up something similar for other wikis, or can someone involved in the project give some advice on how to do it? I personally have no experience in writing bots which is why I came to the much larger Mediawiki community here at Wikipedia. Thanks.--Fiddling Frog (talk) 19:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List?

The main page of this article says that in order to be able to use this tool, I have to put my name at the bottom of a list on this talk page. But I'm here and I don't see any list of names.

What I need to do is rename several maps I've uploaded to Wikipedia. Newer versions of those maps are now uploaded to Wikimedia, but the old ones on Wikipedia have a unique file history that shows the evolution of these maps (from first draft to newest updates).

Thus for example, I'd like to rename the East-Hem_323bc.jpg to East-Hem_323bc_old.jpg. That would allow Wikipedia to use the new maps from Commons, while also being able to access the older drafts of each map by adding _old before the .jpg. Thomas Lessman (talk) 13:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have no preference as to whether I am added to the list of potential image renamers or whether an administrator does it instead, but I'd like to see the file Image:IPA chart 2005.png renamed to Image:IPA chart 2005_old.png — for the same reason as is cited by Thomas Lessman above. I have already copied the latest instance of the Wikipedia file to Commons so that it, too, has the latest version wth the highest available resolution. Now we just need the Wikipedia file renamed. Thanks. -- Objectivesea (talk) 07:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppet

{{editprotected}} I've just noticed that User:GeeAlice has been indef blocked as a sockpuppet of User:Jeeny. The user should be removed from Wikipedia:Image renaming/checkpage, which is a protected page. - ✰ALLST☆R✰ ^echo 16:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --- RockMFR 18:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do I do this?

I'm on the list of trusted users, but can never find any way to move an image. How do I do it? Dendodge|Talk^Contribs 15:13, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Humph. Same question... —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 16:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Same here too...I'm reluctant to go asking after this again though. It should come with instructions. Yohan euan o4 (talk) 20:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am assuming the procedure to be (basically) the same as in Wikimedia Commons. That being, a trusted user may insert a rename or rename media|newname.jpg tag in the description pages of images to indicate that that should be renamed. A bot is supposed to take over from there. At least that's what I assumed when I edited the Kumari image. Luis Dantas (talk) 20:53, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

it's the same process, but there's a functional issue: Since Betacommand isn't running that bot on ENWP (don't ask, long story) we have the process in place, but no bot to do the actual moves.

Basically, the bot downloaded the image, re-uploaded to the new name, copied the page text and upload history over to the new page, and marked the old as to-be-deleted. This can still be done by hand by any logged-in user, we just hoped to simplify the issue with the bot. Kylu (talk) 22:53, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...and that would be why the images were not being moved. :D :D :D —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 23:41, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Kylu. It's nice to be aware of the situation. So it would seem that it is still a good idea to mark suitable images for renaming until either another bot is arranged or someone makes the changes manually? I attempted it with the Kumari image, but it seems that I just don't know how to do it all the way. Luis Dantas (talk) 01:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Obsolete?

Now that any admin can move a file, is this process obsolete? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 11:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Historical reference?

The main page still references this page as part of a process to become a trusted user. If this is no longer part of the process than someone should change the main page.

To be honest this whole this is horribly confusing. The process also seems broken, as I have had an image I requested to be renamed 3 months ago and it is still not done. ( File:Alberta Highway 1A.svg).

Hopefully someone can give the whole process some attention and fix it up. --Svgalbertian (talk) 02:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I tagged the main page with {{Historical}}. The bot and its user that was responsible for carrying out the actual behind the scenes work of this process, is currently banned from Wikipedia. Maybe he will return or another user and bot take over the process. - ALLST✰R▼^echo _{wuz here} 04:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If we ever get the ability to rename files ourselves again, then we can rewrite this. Until then... ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]