Talk:2018–2022 Israeli political crisis
Unjustified merger
[edit]There is no reason to merge the two articles. It's a completely different topic. This article talks about three successive election campaigns in Israel, following a failure to form a government. The second article deals with a disagreement of boundaries between the Legislature and the Judiciary, with the Speaker of the Knesset's refusal to convene Parliament, and subsequently the court's ruling against him. Bar (talk) 12:38, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- It's not a completely different topic. The Edelstein-court standoff is really but a small part of the larger narrative surrounding the electoral stalemate and subsequent coalition wrangling. It wouldn't have happened otherwise. Plus, it was resolved peacefully after a few days, without any obvious lasting implications on Israeli constitutional law/jurisprudence. So overall, I don't think it's that independently notable, or worthy of its own article. The subject can easily be accommodated as a subsection of this one. PrimaPrime (talk) 22:57, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- I support a merger. These are two aspects of the same crisis, and if the government would have easily been formed the consututional crisis would never have been born. DGtal (talk) 20:54, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support.--Rataube (talk) 16:54, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- I strongly support a merger. The constitutional crisis was such a minor aspect of the political crisis that even the title of that article conflates the two, pulling in the irrelevant year 2019. Kimpire (talk) 08:14, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
I have merged per the support in this discussion and the preexisting duplication of content. Reywas92Talk 07:09, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
2021
[edit]With no end in sight should the name of the article be changed? Idan (talk) 19:02, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, the fourth elections are clearly part of the same extended period of political gridlock. There also seems to be consensus to merge the "constitutional crisis" article. PrimaPrime (talk) 09:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
2022
[edit]A bit premature, but assuming the Knesset will indeed be dissolved, which seems likely to happen, should the name of the article be changed again? Totalstgamer (talk) 17:25, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- I am pondering on the matter myself. It is really a question of what defines it as a crisis.
- The easy answer is the frequency of elections, but I think that such frequency of elections is as problematic as its consequences and not in itself. Furthermore, a budget has passed and unattended problems were attended - the crisis was considered as over. It is true that the 36th government hasn't attended all the problems it intended to attend and the premature dissolution is the primary reason for that. If negative consequences are the criterion then it would be appropriate to survey the problems the 36th government attended and the problems it was unable to attend due to the premature dissolution.
- Nevertheless I think there is another defining factor to consider and it is the multiple political boycotts (of the left wing on Netanyahu, of the right wing on Arabs, of the Arab Joint List on Jews). The boycotts are the underlying reason for the crisis (along with Netanyahu's insistence to remain as a leader) and are true resemblances of the Israeli society. The coalition lost its majority because Members of the Knesset from Yamina really didn't believe in this cooperation and supported the boycotts. In such case it is correct to say that the crisis is not over - with the disclaimer that the willingness of Yamina, New-Hope and Ra'am to sit together was a huge breakthrough for israeli society that in some sense did resolve some of these boycotts; and that at the next elections Yamina is expected to be uniformly against such boycotts.
- Probably the right thing to do is to emphasize both aspects of the crisis. Itamar the philosopher (talk) 16:11, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
2023
[edit]Is the crisis over? Are 2023 Israeli anti-judicial reform protests not part of it?
They aren't much different from 2020–2021 protests against Benjamin Netanyahu, it seems. 82.166.199.42 (talk) 07:19, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- If the government collapses and there's another snap election we could say this specific crisis of government instability and repeated elections continues. But for now, current events are only generally related to the events of this article the way all political events are generally related to previous political events, and we have to draw the line between one subject and another somewhere (see also the July 2022 United Kingdom government crisis and October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis). PrimaPrime (talk) 18:46, 9 April 2023 (UTC)