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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BorgQueen (talk) 22:21, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Created by Tails Wx (talk) and Sherenk1 (talk). Nominated by Tails Wx (talk) at 01:38, 4 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2023 Africa floods; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - question
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Tails Wx and Sherenk1: Saw this in the queue so I thought I'd give you a review. Article looks all good, I believe the "when?" tag can be overlooked as there is no date mentioned in the source. Could you bear to shorten the hook slightly? My suggestion is ... that after the 2023 Africa floods, relief efforts to help victims of the flooding disaster were disrupted by continuous heavy rainfall? I think it sounds a bit snappier. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 18:24, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Schminnte, thanks for the review! And, I think that hook is good! Tails Wx 18:48, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go then. Promoter, please use ALT1: ... that after the 2023 Africa floods, relief efforts to help victims of the flooding disaster were disrupted by continuous heavy rainfall? Schminnte (talk • contribs) 18:50, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Schminnte: This article has been merged. 69.118.237.29 (talk) 23:17, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the heads up 69.118.237.29. I would like to have some discussion on this before I fail this DYK. @Quake1234: could you please comment on the merge rationale for this? Leaving a merge proposal open for less than an hour before closing does not seem very prudent to me. I would have at least expected it to remain open for some time, or for a courtesy ping to the DYK nomination. Actioning a merge with only one support (with no rationale) doesn't sit right with me. I would have considered a hatnote preferable, as the article was referenced well and could have existed fine in its own. @Onegreatjoke, Jim Michael 2, Tails Wx, and Sherenk1: pinging other involved users. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 08:19, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Schminnte: What seemed to have happened was that their was originally this article and another article detailing some floods that killed over two hundred in south Kivu, DRC. The merger proposal seemed to come out of an opinion that these floods we're part of the same storm as the Rwanda-Uganda ones and thus could be merged. And with one support, Quake instantly merged the two articles together (though, they merged the rwanda-uganda article, which had some substantial words, and merged it into the south kivu flood article, which was a stub at the time). Once merged, the article became about these floods. But for some reason, Quake randomly just decided to change the article's scope from being about these floods to being about all floods in the entirety throughout the entirety of 2023. I don't know how to feel about this personally. The merging, name changing, and scope changing in the span of like two hours just gave me tonal whiplash. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:14, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
To avoid extending this discussion here any further, I am going to open a discussion of merge on Talk:2023 Africa floods. All parties are encouraged to join. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 20:51, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All links were changed to the new article, in spite of the fact there is consensus for a split.47.23.6.178 (talk) 22:33, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to exercise my best judgement here and suggest that this nomination needs another review, due to the split. This is nomination is quite the mess and does not even point to the correct article any more! @Tails Wx, Sherenk1, and Blaylockjam10: ping now involved users. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 09:26, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given that the split article, 2023 African Great Lakes floods, is a mess, and how none of the links point there, I think it’s best to fail this DYK. 69.118.237.29 (talk) 21:11, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, yes. I will fail this one; maybe something with the split page could be done? I'm not sure, on second thought it's better just to be done with this nomination. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 21:25, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Schminnte, that's fine, per the points made by the IP! Tails Wx 23:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

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Both the floods in South Kivu and the floods in western Rwanda are near Lake Kivu, so due to both events being extremely close to each other in both location and time, I think this page should be merged into an article titled 2023 East Africa floods. Quake1234 (talk) 16:34, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support Jim Michael 2 (talk) 16:44, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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