Talk:2024 University of California, Los Angeles pro-Palestinian campus occupation

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I just made the Faculty for Justice in Palestine stub. Please contribute and expand. Noopur28 (talk) 21:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source on claimed UCLA investments

I skimmed UCOP^[1] and UCLA's^[2] financial disclosure statements and couldn't find any solid information directly linking the school to BlackRock or weapons manufacturers. Are there any reliable sources besides claims made by the protestors? 2607:F010:2A7:1024:B528:1E90:8D08:5197 (talk) 23:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't find their portfolio anywhere. It could be possible to submit a public records request asking for their portfolio but dunno whether that'd go under WP:NOR

https://www.finance.ucla.edu/tax-records/records-management/how-to-request-public-records 2607:F140:6000:8146:102B:C19:683C:12AE (talk) 05:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "GEP Holdings Disclosure" (PDF). University of California Office of the President.
^ "Endowment and Finances". UCLA Foundation.

Unreliable footage

“Videos of a female Jewish student being assaulted by several keffiyah wearing students went viral and the student was reported to have been hospitalized after suffering a concussion.. The student was admitted to the ER and is reported to be in stable condition…” Please do not report this as fact. The two newspaper articles referenced are both based on a highly suspect instagram post, which captioned footage like you have here but did not in fact show any of what it claimed. There were no kegfiyah wearing students in the footage and this claim has repeatedly been falsely used to justify the brutal attack on pro-Palestinian protestors at UCLA in the early morning hours of May 1st. 136.62.98.243 (talk) 04:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the original instagram post: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6ZqAwmynTn/?igsh=eHJ1ZGhpaTh0dWVl 136.62.98.243 (talk) 04:18, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An NBC interview with "Elinor" and her mother notes that they attended the protest on Sunday [April 28th].

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecD39KFX6oU

I believe this incident also coincides with a report from the LA Times on Sunday events.

"A young woman sat shaded by an Israeli flag, blood visible on her scalp, awaiting medical attention after she said she was shoved to the ground by another demonstrator while attempting to retrieve her fallen flag."

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-28/gaza-ucla-usc-protests

It is true that that specific video on Instagram was popularized on April 30, but the timeline of the incident itself is also important. 2602:30A:2CEC:2B20:3DC7:1500:46F8:5FFA (talk) 18:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LA Times confirms the video posted on the 30th was of an incident on the 28th. May also help support the assertion that the video 'went viral'.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-16/congress-investigating-ucla-over-treatment-of-jewish-students-after-violent-protests

Among the incidents cited was one on April 28 in which pro-Palestinian protesters are accused of kicking a Jewish woman in the head.

An Instagram post of the scene, posted two days later, became a flash point, inflaming tensions at UCLA. The woman who was kicked, who did not wish to be identified, told The Times she had been shoved to the ground by another demonstrator while attempting to retrieve her fallen Israeli flag during a pro-Israel rally near a group organized in support of Palestinians in Gaza. 2602:30A:2CEC:2B20:A4D0:3EDE:2437:94D7 (talk) 13:35, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is fact. This is another example of believing female victims other than Jewish female victims. The victim's testimony was publicly broadcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecD39KFX6oU 38.106.53.100 (talk) 22:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is fact. This is another example of believing female victims other than Jewish female victims. The victim's testimony was publicly broadcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecD39KFX6oU 38.106.53.100

JerryJJJJJJ (talk) 22:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Caption

The caption titled “Students resisting LAPD” in the Gallery section, clearly shows California Highway Patrol (CHP). The patches of CHP can clearly be seen in the photograph. 2600:1700:34D0:3858:E55E:BBE1:F70C:AEFF (talk) 11:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Caption now accurately names CHP. Additionally, I swapped resisting for clashed with to align with WP:NPOV, but if editors have a consensus for "resisting," I am open to that discussion. --Delta1989 (talk) (contributions) 18:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please add this photo to the main article

Hi, I published/uploaded the following image for free use on Wikipedia from the encampment. Please add to the article. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Poster_from_the_May_1st_UCLA_Gaza_Solidary_Encampment,_Royce_Hall.jpg Ashvio (talk) 03:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please update the number of protestors arrested to 200+ as per LA Times (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-01/la-me-ucla-camp-police). Niashervin (talk) 17:09, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already done See infobox with stats on number of arrests etc. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 20:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Separate page for the May 1st attack by counter protestors?

Since it was a notable event in the campus protests across the United States. There is also so much more information not included in the section. I feel like The New York Times did a great job depicting the timeline of events (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/03/us/ucla-protests-encampment-violence.html), which can be used as a reference. Seeing as the governor of California and the UC president are expressing desire for an investigation of campus police and the LAPD, we could see much more information in the coming months. Kokaynegeesus (talk) 17:35, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will agree on this one. The new article should be titled "University of California, Los Angeles counter-mob attack" or something like that. SpringField23402 (talk) 22:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. We can include it on here for now and keep it as part of the page. I dont think its necessarily independent or notable enough for its own page outside of the 2024 UCLA encampment page. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 00:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added info from the NYtimes in. If the section should grow large enough, we can always split it into its own page. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 01:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah. Why didn't I think of that before? SpringField23402 (talk) 10:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I said on the other article, better to include here for now I think. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 00:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Categorizing involved parties in the infobox

Previous versions of this article had the involved parties listed in the infobox (pro-Palestinian, pro-Israeli, and law enforcement) separated into three separate columns, with one for each (link to old version). The article has since been updated to place pro-Israeli demonstrators and law enforcement on the same side, with a horizontal bar separating them. Since this was done without comment on the talk page, I wanted to know whether other editors had a preference for how the infobox should be structured. --Delta1989 (talk) (contributions) 18:13, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Photo of CHP Officers

There is nowhere on UCLA's campus that resembles this photo, especially not near Royce Quad where the encampment was. I'm 90% certain that this photo isn't even from the surrounding neighborhood of Westwood. If I'm mistaken, the caption should at least be updated to reflect that this photo was not taken on campus, and a specific location with street names would be helpful. Again, however, I am almost certain that this photo is from another event in another part of Los Angeles. AnarchoFuturist (talk) 23:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I reverse-searched the image and found similar shots taken outside the LA Men's Central Jail. Based on the street view it looks to be the correct location. If this photo is actually relevant, it was probably from when students were arrested and taken to the jail for processing. I'm not sure what should actually happen, either caption change or image removal, but mystery solved at least. Roberto3579 (talk) 01:33, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Curious omissions

Why is there no mention of the encampers excluding Jews from certain parts of campus, creating "Jew Exclusion Zones", as alleged in this recent lawsuit, or Milagro Jones, who claims to have been beaten up by two UCLA professors, and has also recently filed a lawsuit? AnonMoos (talk) 22:17, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Request to change "Polic found "bolt cutters, super glue, padlocks and other items that indicated [that the protestors had] intended to vandalize and occupy a building on campus."" to "Police found "bolt cutters, super glue, padlocks and other items that indicated [that the protestors had] intended to vandalize and occupy a building on campus."" This is under the May 6 section. I'm pretty sure there's a typo and it's supposed to be "Police" rather than "Polic." Can I has Cheezburger? (talk) 20:38, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done, good catch!

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 02:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lawsuit by Young America’s Foundation

I have added and then swiftly reverted myself a lawsuit by the Young America’s Foundation. For now, the lawsuit is not directly about the protests and encampment. However, since the lawsuit is related to it, this may become relevant as the lawsuit develops. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 19:32, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "GEP Holdings Disclosure" (PDF). University of California Office of the President.

[2] "Endowment and Finances". UCLA Foundation.

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