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Reactions

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Do we want to try to enforce some content policies on the reactions section so it doesn't get too cluttered with unimportant statements? I tried removing all reactions cited to WP:PRIMARY sources in order to bring the section in line with WP:DUE but was reverted. –Novem Linguae (talk) 01:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@189.217.192.251 please discuss here before again adding such reactions. a lot of officials are going to say a lot of things. we should not be cluttering the entry with it. when officials DO things, we can evaluate and add as necessary. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 01:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In a meeting the Venezuelan president has recently announced the closure of its embassy in ecuador is this notable to include in the reactions section? Mochatbh (talk) 17:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gobierno de Venezuela anuncia el cierre de su embajada y sus consulados (BBC Mundo) Exactly the sort of development that should be included over and above nebulous expressions of outrage. If anything else concrete like that emerges from today's CELAC meeting of heads of state/govt, the event will probably warrant its own paragraph. Moscow Mule (talk) 19:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicaraguan Support in Infobox

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Do we include "Supported by: Nicaragua" in the infobox? I understand they broke ties with Ecuador in solidarity with Mexico, but Nicaraguan forces weren't in the raid itself. - MateoFrayo (talk) 18:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This would have been less awkward if the word belligerents wasn’t in the infobox. Support a previous rev referring to them as parties. Borgenland (talk) 18:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Belligerents changed to 'parties involved'; Nicaragua removed. Moscow Mule (talk) 19:02, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And "Commanders and leaders" reads as too military for this context; I tried putting the presidents under "parties involved", see if that survives community scrutiny. Moscow Mule (talk) 19:13, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The choice of using Template:Infobox military conflict is quite awkward in itself, as this isn't an actual war or battle. I can't think of a suitable alternative though; Template:Infobox civil conflict and Template:Infobox military operation both seem slightly off in different ways. Worst case scenario is that we resort to using the generic Template:Infobox event.
Listing the Secretariat of Foreign Affairs under "units involved" also looks quite strange to me, since it isn't really a "unit" in the usual military or policing sense. Liu1126 (talk) 18:05, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Units involved" jars. Maybe it'd be better to ignore that parameter in the infobox (and, in any case, the Ecuadorian national police is probably in the back seat compared to the Ecuadorian foreign ministry in terms of involvement). Moscow Mule (talk)

Requested move 17 April 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 05:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


2024 raid on the Mexican embassy in EcuadorEcuadorian raid on the Mexican embassy in Quito – According to the consensus in the RM discussion for Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus which itself follows a precedent set by the title of United States bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, articles covering attacks on embassies perpetrated by sovereign states are to be titled thus "(Adjectival form of perpetrating state) (nature of attack) on the (adjectival form of victim state) in (host city)". ―Howard🌽33 14:11, 17 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 02:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment The year is not necessary which I support removing, but while the embassy is in Quito, the embassy is representative to the country as whole, not the city or just the city. For embassy and consulate article titles they have the city location, but this is not an embassy article rather an event pertaining to the diplomatic office. So it should be titled either Ecuadorian raid on the Mexican embassy or Raid on the Mexican embassy in Ecuador. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:46, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I didn't want to get involved in the move war during the first days of this article's existence, but I was happier with the various "Mexican embassy in Quito" formulations rather than the present "Mexican embassy in Ecuador". On the grounds of "embassy to Ecuador" vs. "embassy in Quito", which is the usage I'd instinctively follow. And the precedents Howardcorn33 gives are compelling. Moscow Mule (talk) 19:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Law Enforcement, WikiProject International relations, WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, WikiProject Ecuador, and WikiProject Mexico have been notified of this discussion. RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.