Talk:86th Street station (BMT Fourth Avenue Line)

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Did you know... that it took three years to construct a subway line to 86th Street in New York City, and another nine years to extend it by one stop to 95th Street?

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GA Review

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Reviewer: 1.02 editor (talk · contribs) 10:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Expect comments soon. 1.02 editor (T/C) 10:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

The lead needs to be longer. information on history and other relevant things should be included.
- Done Added a paragraph about history. epicgenius (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Do mention about the one stop southwards extension from this station, currently only the terminal is mentioned.
- Done epicgenius (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see a mention that there was a renovation in the 1970s, but it is not covered in the article.
- Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 17:05, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Reference needed for the second paragraph of Station layout
- @Kew Gardens 613: Do you have references for these two above points? epicgenius (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Epicgenius and 1.02 editor: I am working on it. I have a reference for the platform extension in 1970, which I will add, but am working on the tiling.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 11:00, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Kew Gardens 613: any update on this? 1.02 editor (T/C) 13:59, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - @1.02 editor: Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 17:05, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is the bus stop part of the station? if it is not then it should not be covered in such great detail and the table should be excluded. If it is, do mention more about the bus station and include information about its history if different from the subway station.
- The bus stops are just outside the station entrances. epicgenius (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Do ensure to update the article, as i see from the article that the renovations are expected to end soon.
- Will do.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 17:05, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hold

I will be putting the article on hold for now. Do fix up the article, and i will go through it one more time before passing. Thanks 1.02 editor (T/C) 06:50, 3 April 2020 (UTC) @1.02 editor: Due to the Jewish holiday of Passover and the Sabbath on Saturday, I won't be editing from tonight until Saturday night at the earliest. I wanted to let you know to make sure that you know that I am still committed to addressing the aforementioned issues.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 21:49, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@1.02 editor: Due to Passover, I won't be able to do any editing from tonight until Thursday evening at the earliest. I am still committed to addressing your concerns with the article. Thanks for your patience and stay safe. I will do a similar rewrite to Bay Ridge Avenue to address the issues you brought up in the review. @Epicgenius: Thanks so much for helping out!--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 23:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kew Gardens 613, no problem. @1.02 editor: Can I ask that you defer making the decision about whether to promote all the 4th Avenue Line pages until Thursday at the earliest? I would like to nominate these all as part of a single DYK. epicgenius (talk) 23:14, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@1.02 editor: All the issues mentioned have been dealt with.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 17:05, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, passing. 1.02 editor (T/C) 02:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that a one-stop subway extension from 86th Street to 95th Street was built in advance of the unbuilt Staten Island Tunnel in New York City? Source: NY Times 1922
- ALT1:... that a one-stop subway extension from 86th Street to 95th Street in New York City was constructed in preparation for the unbuilt Staten Island Tunnel? Source: NY Times 1922
- ALT2:... that it took three years to construct a subway line to 86th Street in New York City, and another nine years to extend it one stop to 95th Street? Sources: Electric Railroaders Association, Brooklyn Eagle 1916, Brooklyn Eagle 1925

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2009 World Cup of Pool, Template:Did you know nominations/Treaty of Lutatius

Improved to Good Article status by Kew Gardens 613 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 01:57, 23 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

A new hook is probably needed here as well as both hooks appear to have a limited audience and may not interest those who aren't from New York or aren't familiar with infrastructure (disclosure: I also discussed this with the nominator over at Discord, I'm leaving this comment here as well for transparency purposes). Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:30, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the comment. I have proposed an alternate hook. epicgenius (talk) 14:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds better, but unfortunately I may not have the time to be able to review both articles. Hopefully someone else can take a look here. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC

Good articles. QPQ done. hook cited. Approving Alt2. --evrik ^(talk) 00:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]