Talk:Angelo De Donatis

Name

The equivalent entry in the Italian Wikipedia gives his name as De Donatis. His own email address uses Angelo.DeDonatis as well. ALL the citations in this entry use De. The only "source" that uses de is Catholic Hierarchy, which is one man's work and not a valid source. I think this page needs to be moved to Angelo De Donatis. Any objection? Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 06:17, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Also note that his last name is De Donatis, not Donatis.That's why the Diocese of Rome calls him "Angelo DE DONATIS". Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 07:19, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

And I've notified Catholic Hierarchy about this error. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 08:16, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

And Catholic Hierarchy made the change. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 13:51, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

I've made the changes relating to De Donatis. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 14:15, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Source?

Is there a source for these appointment? Grand Chancellor of the Pontifical Lateran University, and Apostolic Administrator of the Suburbicarian Diocese of Ostia. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 14:20, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

@Bmclaughlin9: The Grand Chancellorship is held ex officio by the Vicar General of Rome. However, I've just added a reference for it in the article. The Vicar is also the apostolic administrator of Ostia ex officio. Working on tracking down a reference for it. Ergo Sum 01:35, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

We need to say that in the entry then. It's not just a question of citations. I've tried to do that.

The Tablet is so imprecise in its writing that I often search for other sources. For example: "The papal appointment automatically elevates the auxiliary bishop of Rome to archbishop..." Automatically? Francis gave him the title. Nothing automatic at all. So when The Tablet throws in the University title I'm left wondering. The article doesn't say ex officio. And it tosses in the University position along with Archpriest, though only one of those is an explicit appointment. Given the fact that Francis has created an Archbishop General Vicar, which is quite an innovation itself, I'd like to have sources that are explicit about what is ex officio and what is simply the way things have traditionally been sorted out. Perhaps we'll see some clearer statements when De Donatis takes office on 29 June. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 04:51, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

DYK

The nomination below isn't very hooky at all. If we had a source that said De Donatis is the first non-cardinal Vicar General of Rome since 1558, we'd have something worthy of DYK. I've seen sources suggest that and it seems true. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 07:27, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

You're free to add an alternate hook to the nomination template and provide a source for the claim. Ergo Sum 17:02, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Just changed the hook. Comment on the nomination page in support or otherwise would be appreciated. Ergo Sum 18:27, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

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