Talk:Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation)
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Attempted assassination of Donald Trump
[edit]i want to know who did it what happened where did it happened when did it happened and why did it happened 2600:4809:98F1:2900:C97D:EED6:54B2:136C (talk) 22:19, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Somebody moved the page (I am assuming you are talking about the Trump rally shooting) and turned this page into a disambiguation page. :) SirMemeGod 22:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
The redirect Second attempted assassination of Donald Trump has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 16 § Second attempted assassination of Donald Trump until a consensus is reached. 64.229.88.34 (talk) 23:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
"Donald Trump shooting" listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]The redirect Donald Trump shooting has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 16 § Donald Trump shooting until a consensus is reached. 64.229.88.34 (talk) 22:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
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Please add the dates to the incidents.
- (13 July 2024)
- (15 September 2024)
- (18 June 2016)
It would help in later additions to the page when needing date-sorting. And to those who are unfamiliar with the locations. -- 64.229.88.34 (talk) 22:46, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Partly done: At least the month and year have been added for each attempt in Special:Diff/1249696252 by Wikishovel. There is no need to show the exact day of the month. GTrang (talk) 16:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 11 October 2024
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Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation) → Attempted assassination of Donald Trump – The fact that the Pennsylvania article is located at Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania rather than Attempted assassination of Donald Trump suggests that there is no primary topic. This will hopefully resolve the confusion raised at User talk:SilverLocust#Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation). GTrang (talk) 14:01, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Support a disambiguation page. Attempted assassination of Donald Trump could refer to both the PA and FL attempts (although some may argue the PA attempt is PT because the former president was actually wounded in that attempt). cookie monster 755 15:25, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Weak oppose – upon further consideration, I do think that Attempted assassination of Donald Trump should redirect to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania, as former president Trump was actually wounded in this attempt but unharmed in the Florida attempt. It is not comparable to the Attempted assassination of Gerald Ford in San Francisco / Sacramento because Ford was not wounded in either of the attempts. cookie monster 755 15:34, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support: per nom. C F A 💬 15:28, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- oppose this doesn't need a dab per WP:ONEOTHER and vegas thing isn't called an 'attempted assassination' in the article—blindlynx 16:08, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's a different question than what is being asked. If it isn't moved, then I do agree that it should be deleted per WP:ONEOTHER, but that's not really relevant to the move. C F A 💬 03:35, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Weak oppose. Per WP:NCWWW, including "when", "where", or "what" in a descriptive title for an event does not actually mean there is no primary topic for the same title with some of that information removed, provided the information is a "useful identifier". And the discussion in the requested move that this arose out of didn't really provide any convincing justification for there being WP:NOPRIMARY. That the page has been moved to a strictly longer title doesn't change whether there is a primary topic, so I still think that it satisfies both WP:PT1 (per CFA) and WP:PT2 (per CFA). SilverLocust 💬 16:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support that there is WP:NOPRIMARYTOPIC. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:30, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support WP:NOPRIMARYTOPIC. JeffSpaceman (talk) 13:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support WP:NOPRIMARYTOPIC.LM2000 (talk) 01:50, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral point Would like to point out that this article/list exists and appears to be a better location to put all security related incidents without needing to have a disambiguation list that contains only security incidents classified as "assassination attempts"
- Support per nom. We can't have Attempted assassination of Donald Trump redirecting to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania because that would indicate "in Pennsylvania" was unnecessary disambiguation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose in favour of having both "attempted assassination" titles (with and without disambiguation) redirect to Security incidents involving Donald Trump, a set index article summarizing several security incidents which have been or could be described as assassination attempts. There is no utility to readers in having one list with all security incidents alongside another list with only some of the same incidents. Per the language in WP:G14, the set index would "perform a disambiguation-like function" even though it is not technically a disambiguation page. Support the move in principle otherwise. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Ivanvector. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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