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Former good articleByron Brown was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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January 11, 2009Good article nomineeListed
February 10, 2009Featured article candidateNot promoted
February 22, 2023Good article reassessmentDelisted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 28, 2008.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Byron Brown was the first African-American to be elected mayor of Buffalo, New York, even though six African-Americans had been the nominee before him?
Current status: Delisted good article

Birth date

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Do we know his age? --BDD 18:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We do now.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:15, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion/racism?

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  • "Was elected under a deal with the former mayor, where Masiello agreed not to run again in exchange for the party quashing any opposition to his 2000 re-election.

Essentially Brown was appointed mayor, because he is black. Has never held a real job in his life, and chose to stay in Buffalo because he could use his color to advantage."

I took out the uncited, blistering allegations and opinions against Mayor Brown. Perhaps if someone can cite and objectify them, they might have a place under criticism.--Ccoolidge 22:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)ccoolidge

Early Life/Biography?

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Would like to know a little more information about early life, family, associations, friends, passions, etc. 24.24.232.218 (talk) 15:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)Greygf[reply]

Why is there no information on who his birth parents are? Who was Byron Brown Sr., and whats his story. Who is his mother?Djh42883 (talk) 06:54, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Byron Brown/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

There's a lot to like here; the foundation of a good article is definitely present. The writing still needs quite a bit of work, and there are some problems with neutrality, however.

I've started reviewing your changes and comments. As I go through, I'll bold anything that I think requires further attention. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 21:47, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Update: All concerns have now been addressed, and the article is a GA. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 13:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well-written

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This could use quite a bit of work:

        • Actually, no, this sentence is highly incorrect! The New York Times article is just saying he was the sixth African American Democratic possibility to become mayor, but nothing about *any* of the prior five winning the Democratic primary. Indeed, it is counterfactual because since the mid-1960's all the mayors have been Democratic, and all of them presumably have won their party's nomination in order to run in the general election. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.52.172 (talk) 02:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Factually accurate and verifiable

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Only minor issues here; I have the impression that the material is all sourced, but that an occasional lack of inline citations sometimes makes it hard to tell which source supports a given assertion. Examples:

Besides those cases, there are a few cases where the information in the article doesn't appear to match the sources:

This now passes the factually accurate criterion. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 21:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Broad in its coverage

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Mostly excellent. Some minor quibbles:

I believe this article now meets the good article criterion on comprehensiveness. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 03:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral

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There are some issues here:

All neutrality issues addressed - it now passes this criterion. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 21:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stable

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One minor edit in the last eighteen days, no evidence of edit-warring at any time. Pass. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 15:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Illustrated, if possible, by images

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Good image choices, all of them appropriately-licensed. Pass. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 15:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Election results

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I just noticed Kirsten E. Gillibrand solved the minor party problem of New York State as follows. I will try to do something like this tonight for Brown:

Year Democrat Votes Pct Republican Votes Pct
2006 Kirsten E. Gillibrand 125,168 53% John E. Sweeney 110,554 47% *
Democratic 116,416 Republican 94,093
Working Families 8,752 Conservative 9,869
Independence 6,592
2008 Kirsten E. Gillibrand 193,651 62% Sandy Treadwell 118,031 38% *
Democratic 178,996 Republican 99,930
Working Families 14,655 Conservative 10,077
Independence 8,024

Rough attempt

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Year Democrat Votes Pct Republican Votes Pct Conservative Votes Pct Right to Life Votes Pct
2000 NYSS 57th[1] Byron Brown 48,683 59.77% Bob Woolworth 12,542 15.40% Al Coppola 18,938 23.25% Anthony Murty 1,285 1.58%
Democratic 47,011 Republican 11,069 Conservative 13,501 Right to Life 1,285
Liberal 1,672 Independence 1,473 Green Party 3,385
Workers 2,052
2002 NYSS 60th[2] Byron Brown 43,260 65.14% Al Coppola 23,154 34.86%
Democratic 41,436 Republican 20,236
Liberal 1,824 Conservative 2,918
2004 NYSS 60th[3] Byron Brown 75,031 77.07% Al Coppola 22,328 22.93%
Democratic 65,609 Republican 22,328
Independence 3,736
Conservative 1,990
Workers 3,696
2005 Buffalo Mayor[4] Byron Brown 46,613 63.79% Kevin Helfer 19,853 27.17% Judith S. Einach 3,525 4.82% Charles J. Flynn 3,082 4.22%
Democratic 43,541 Republican 17,680 Green Party 3,525 Independence 3,082
Working Families 3,072 Conservative 2,173
  1. ^ "2000 New York State Senate" (PDF). New York State Board of Elections. Retrieved 2008-01-27.
  2. ^ "2002 New York State Senate" (PDF). New York State Board of Elections. Retrieved 2008-01-27.
  3. ^ "2004 New York State Senate" (PDF). New York State Board of Elections. Retrieved 2008-01-27.
  4. ^ Results of the 2005 Buffalo mayoral election, Erie County Board of Elections (recieved upon request by email from the Buffalo & Erie County Public Library, 2005 {{citation}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 20:48, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mayoral Election Results

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I was unable to find official 2005 Mayoral Election Results. The text is an email that I received after making an online query following is somewhat WP:OR, but somewhat valid WP:PRIMARY:

Hello - Thank you for contacting the Buffalo and Erie County Library.

I searched the City of Buffalo webiste, the Erie County Board of Elections website, and the NY State Board of Elections website and was uable to find any official information on the 2005 Buffalo Mayoral Election results.

However, I contacted the Erie County Board of Elections and was told that the official election results can be mailed to you if you like. They were able to read the results to me over the phone, but were not able to electronically send them to me.

These are the results I was told over the phone:

Byron Brown: Democratic Party - 43,541 Working Families - 3,072

Kevin Helfer: Republican Party - 17,680 Conservative - 2,173

Total for Byron Brown - 46,613 Total for Kevin Helfer - 19,853

Other Candidates: Judith S. Einach - 3,525 Charles J. Flynn - 3,082


However, if you need a print copy of the official results, you can contact the Erie County Board of Elections Directly at: 134 West Eagle St. Buffalo, NY 14202 MAIN (716) 858-8891

I did find an article in the Buffalo News Archives; "Brown defeats Helfer 64% - 27% - Vote signals mandate from city voters," an article from November 9th, 2005. This does list some general numbers from the election, although I'm not sure they could be considered official.

The article is at the bottom of this email.

I hope this information is useful for you.

Thank You - Buffalo & Erie County Public Library

LK/SJL — Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 22:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I said on Tony's talk page, if the Board of Elections will send this information to anybody who asks, I think it's verifiable. Per WP:PRIMARY, no inferences or interpretations can be drawn from this data, but if we're just talking about including the information I'd say go for it (even if there's a little WP:IAR required). Though it still blows my mind that this information hasn't been covered by the news media or publishe%d online by the Board of Electors. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 23:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to verify the 99% that he the article says he received in 2009. I know he won big but if truly did get 99% being a voting resident I think I would remember it. Even though I have Excel 2010 Starter and tried twice; I was unable to obtain the information that is supposedly on the website. Makes me wonder if the Board making it difficult to obtain the information is to help it to fail to comply with freedom of information which is widespread in Erie County.1archie99 (talk) 23:18, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just noticed that the article states he ran unopposed in 2009 yet in the graphs the Republican column has Kearns in it as 158 votes. Also Kearns is stated as having received 158 writein votes. Seems that correction and/or an explanation is needed. Cannot understand why the Board of Electors is run by the two major parties; this makes it inherently corrupt against anyone not affiliated with either of the two major parties.1archie99 (talk) 23:39, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Suit and Tie

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The following text from former versions of the article has been contentious:

Brown attended Public School 134 in Hollis, where he went to class in a suit and tie on his first day of first grade. Brown continues to be what is referred to as a "suit-and-tie guy", for his habit of wearing suits.[1][url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:NewsBank:BNWB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=10D0995C89AD4B80&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated5&req_dat=0D0CB579A3BDA420]


The text of the original secondary source says : "The fresh-faced first-grader, outgoing, ambitious and well-mannered above all else, arrived at Public School 134 in Hollis, Queens, eager to make a statement.

He did it by showing up in a suit and tie, the only boy in his class to dress up for the first day of school.

To this day, Byron W. Brown is a suit-and-tie guy. Inside and outside. "[1][url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:NewsBank:BNWB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=10D0995C89AD4B80&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated5&req_dat=0D0CB579A3BDA420]


I have since notice more about Brown's fashion sense: "Mr. Brown, 42, a slight man who is always impeccably dressed"[2][url=http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E00EEDD143EF93BA25753C1A9669C8B63]

It seems to me that his fashion sense is a bit more important than we noticed at first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 01:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with a mention of his fashion sense (though I'm still not convinced it's warranted), but I think it should be something less oblique than "he's known as a suit and tie guy". Sarcasticidealist (talk) 04:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What would be acceptable language?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Corruption allegations in the media

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Brown is a fairly large political figure in the state with regular mentions in The New York Times for his various dealings. I find it hard to justify that there is no mention of these corruption allegations in the NYT, yet we insist on having a section in WP for them. I personally would prefer that for any of Browns political affairs that the bar for notability be set at a mention in the NYT.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:56, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is ridiculous. The entire article for Byron Brown has been obviously written by someone either in his administration or by someone paid to glorify him. Saying that "only one source should be used" because it doesn't mention Brown's flaws and scandals is against Wikipedia's principals, and you should be ashamed for even attempting to do it. Of all the politicians that deserve a long and detailed Wikipedia entry, Brown is probably the least-deserving. He hasn't done anything for the city of Buffalo, and his City Hall has had more controversy than any mayoral administration in my lifetime. He sucks, I'm sorry. TheNewMinistry (talk) 14:51, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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GA Reassessment

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Byron Brown

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch • Watch article reassessment page • Most recent review
Result: Delisted. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:12, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article has been tagged as an advertisement since 2021. I share concerns about neutrality. There are elements that are too positive, but the article also has a controversy section,(WP:CSECTION).

  • Article uses a facebook post by Brown to talk about endorsements
  • Third paragraph of early career lists distinctions, which I believe needs culling
  • Last paragraph early elective experience is also bit too positive. Unclear why he was called James Bond..
  • Sentences like: " By January 2009 State of the City Address, Brown reported that crime had fallen 12% and homicide by 50% since he had taken office". As numbers can be cherrypicked, these should come from a secondary source. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:35, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
  1. ^ a b Fairbanks, Phil (2005-10-02). "Two who would be mayor - An achiever since boyhood, Brown is disciplined, polished -- and 'sphinxlike'". The Buffalo News. Newsbank. Retrieved 2008-11-23.
  2. ^ Hicks, Jonathan P. (2000-10-18). "To Be State Senator, He Must Beat the Incumbent, Again". The New York Times. The New York Times Company. Retrieved 2008-11-23.
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