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"Astronauts that did not fly"

Dr. Richard Malcolm and Ken Money were the first two Canadian astronauts. Neither one of them flew a mission. Richard left the program when they were told that it would be another 7 years before a non American would fly. Ken left some time later. Richard and Ken were on the cover of one of the issues of Weekend Magazine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.179.67.139 (talk) 23:47, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"CANASA - The Canadian NASA"

I have never heard of the CSA being referred to as CANASA or "the Canadian NASA", and there is no source provided for this information. Is this really necessary to include in the first sentence of the article? I don't believe it's relevant, and I don't feel we need to fly on the coattails of the Americans. I did not remove it myself, but I feel it should be removed unless a valid source can be provided to justify it's inclusion.

Previous discussions without headers

I changed 'third country to launch a satellite' to 'third country to put a satellite' because Canada did not actually launch Allouette 1. It was built by them but launched by NASA on an American made rocket.

CanX

Should the CanX satellites be inclueded in the list of Canadian satellites? They are Canadian but were not financed by the CSA. Vsst 20:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of Arms

I've added the agency's coat of arms, though for some reason the motto doesn't show up unless you download the file. Very odd. A1 Aardvark (talk) 08:24, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are they?

Is Canada going to launch an orbital rocket into space? Mickman1234 (talk) 20:52, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Canada and mining the moon

According to this source—Space Studies Institute’s Space Manufacturing 14 conference, October 2010^[1]—Canadian mining engineering manager and professor Greg Baiden has been working for four years with the Canadian Space Agency in building a "strategic plan for how we are going to mine the moon." This is at approx. 17:30 mins. in the video; but his talk starts at about 16 mins. in.

Question: Is this really happening? Is it public? If so, is it something that ought to be reflected in the Canadian Space Agency article? Cheers. N2e (talk) 01:17, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it appears to be happening, and the fact that it is happening is public.. I don't know about details, though. This is part of the CSA's plan released in May 2007 (see the CSA's Global Exploration Strategy). Mlm42 (talk) 02:24, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Mlm42 for the link to the Global Exploration Strategy paper on the CSA website. I think that is helpful. Having said that, it is very hard to tell just how much practical buy-in the CSA has into that document, given that it is a joint doc of 14 national and international state space agencies ^{"ASI (Italy), BNSC (United Kingdom), CNES (France), CNSA (China), CSA (Canada), CSIRO (Australia), DLR (Germany), ESA (European Space Agency), ISRO (India), JAXA (Japan), KARI (Republic of Korea), NASA (United States of America), NSAU (Ukraine), Roscosmos (Russia)"} Some might say, I suppose, that the doc is cheap talk and doesn't really show much about the support of each of those space agencies for the broad goals outlined in the strategy doc. I.e., it doesn't show how much real/actual support exists in each nation for private/commercial enterprises to come to the space table and really develop economic resources outside of the direct control of the traditional national monopoly space agencies.

At any rate, I'm still looking for anything anybody has that shows more concrete info about the CSA and the "mine the moon" strategy they (allegedly) have been developing over the past four years, per the source I quoted earlier. N2e (talk) 07:02, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Moon, Mars, Asteroids: Where to Go First for Resources? SSI-TV, November 9, 2010, 74:37, Recorded on 10/29/10, panel discussion held during the Space Studies Institute’s Space Manufacturing 14 conference in Silicon Valley. Moderated by tech investor Esther Dyson, the discussion included: Prof. Michael A'Hearn, University of Maryland, Dept. of Astronomy, Prof. Greg Baiden, Penguin Automated Systems, Mark Sonter, Asteroid Enterprises Pty Ltd, Prof. John Lewis, Space Studies Institute, Dr. Paul Spudis, Lunar and Planetary Institute, and Jeff Greason, XCOR Aerospace.

Commercial space activity in Canada vs. the Canadian Space Agency

Just read a couple of well-written articles on the CDN$3.1B annual revenue (2009) and activity of the Canadian space sector. Here and here are the two articles published so far on the "Canadian Commercial Space Sector". (I realize these articles were published on a blog, so may not be directly usable on Wikipedia. But the author has helpfully provided a large number of links to the source literature, so the important information could be cited if any of it is used to improve Wikipedia.)

there is not a lot of overlap between the $626 million CDN government funded sector and the $3+ billion CDN private sector.

the three largest firms in this sector, the communications giant Telesat, robotics expert Macdonald Dettwiler (MDA) and micro-satellite upstart COMDEV International (COMDEV) have emerged as the "three kings" of Canadian space focused activities.

Any one of these three firms will likely have more effect on Canadian space activities than anything that could possibly happen at the Canadian Space Agency (CSA) over the next little while and much of the reason for this is the ongoing government policy to encourage research commercialization as the cornerstone of the Canadian science and technology strategy.

Wikipedia has this article on the (apparently smaller) Canadian Space Agency of the Government of Canada, but very little on the larger and more active commercial space activity in Canada in general. Is another Wikipedia article warranted? The CSA doesn't seem to be too active in and of itself. N2e (talk) 12:55, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Somewhat related, the Candian government has published a new high-level space policy, or space philosophy: Harper Government Publishes Framework for Canadian Space Program, Parabolic Arc, 7 Feb 2014. It's very high level, so diffficult to tell what it means, but it does have some words about "commercialization", and "strenthen[ing] our economy", and "promoting Canadian innovation." Might be useful to improve the article, although this source doesn't say much about the broader commercial/private space activity in Candada. N2e (talk) 11:39, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-CSA Canadian contributions to international missions

In the table under the heading International satellite projects, at least two projects are listed which predate the CSA. I would suggest adding the Ulysses mission, launched in 1990, which had an instrument contributed by the Herzberg Institute of Astrophysics: the high-flux telescope or HFT (part of the COSPIN experiment). Some information about this, the first Canadian contribution to an interplanetary mission is on the Internet Wayback Machine^[1] but otherwise I don't see any reference to it on the NRC's present web site. Additionally, it appears that the Canadian contributions to the Akebono and Nozomi missions, led by Andrew Yau at the University of Calgary, had previously been under the auspices of the NRC's Herzberg Institute before being transferred to CSA. The CSA press release of 1998-07-03 ^[2] is therefore incorrect in referring to Nozomi as the first time Canada has sent an instrument as part of an interplanetary mission. (The media advisory from a few days earlier was correct, however, in referring to the event as "Canada's first time participation in a Mission to Mars".) Mathew5000 (talk) 04:09, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Welcome to the HIA Ulysses Project". Herzberg Institute of Astrophysics. Archived from the original on 17 August 2011. The Herzberg Institute of Astrophysics (HIA) of the National Research Council of Canada provided instrumentation and test equipment for the COsmic ray and Solar Particle INvestigation (COSPIN) on the Ulysses spacecraft. The COSPIN instrument consists of five sensors which measure energetic nucleons and electrons over a wide range of energies. This was the first participation by Canada in a deep-space interplanetary mission.
^ "Canadian Probe Launched to Mars" (Press release). Canadian Space Agency. 3 July 1998. Archived from the original on 2 December 1998.

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[1] Moon, Mars, Asteroids: Where to Go First for Resources? SSI-TV, November 9, 2010, 74:37, Recorded on 10/29/10, panel discussion held during the Space Studies Institute’s Space Manufacturing 14 conference in Silicon Valley. Moderated by tech investor Esther Dyson, the discussion included: Prof. Michael A'Hearn, University of Maryland, Dept. of Astronomy, Prof. Greg Baiden, Penguin Automated Systems, Mark Sonter, Asteroid Enterprises Pty Ltd, Prof. John Lewis, Space Studies Institute, Dr. Paul Spudis, Lunar and Planetary Institute, and Jeff Greason, XCOR Aerospace.

[2] "Welcome to the HIA Ulysses Project". Herzberg Institute of Astrophysics. Archived from the original on 17 August 2011. The Herzberg Institute of Astrophysics (HIA) of the National Research Council of Canada provided instrumentation and test equipment for the COsmic ray and Solar Particle INvestigation (COSPIN) on the Ulysses spacecraft. The COSPIN instrument consists of five sensors which measure energetic nucleons and electrons over a wide range of energies. This was the first participation by Canada in a deep-space interplanetary mission.

[3] "Canadian Probe Launched to Mars" (Press release). Canadian Space Agency. 3 July 1998. Archived from the original on 2 December 1998.

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