Talk:Carlos Castillo-Chavez

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Whilst it may be factually accurate so far as it goes, the neutrality of the article needs stringent scrutiny, due to apparent cause for concern related to a possible conflict of interest.

Specifically the author may be close to the subject. Even with a renowned and highly acclaimed subject, this may lead to non-neutral editing unless careful. A check by neutral editors is probably a good way to ensure Wikipedia standards are in fact complied with.

FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 04:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited some passages and re-written them in a more encyclopedic tone, added some secondary sources, and some bibliography. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 05:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"He is acclaimed for his work on enhancing prospects for academic success and providing research opportunities at the interface of the biological, computational, and mathematical sciences from the undergraduate to graduate and postdoctoral levels to underrepresented groups."

This statement is sourced from Castillo-Chavez's own description of himself, and reads like a promotion text. Probably needs review and rewriting. And a neutrality check on the text as a whole - factual but is it balanced in the sense that this is how other reliable sources and biographies represent him too? Worth a quick check. FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 05:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have fixed this already.... ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 15:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The promo-style quote yes. The balance/NPOV/secondary sources issue, not touched yet and needs more eyeballs and checking. FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 03:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Science magazine profile

Here's a long feature story in Science whose news angle is his retirement from ASU, after ASU resolved a student complaint with an agreement that Castillo-Chavez retire.

The complaint was that he subject her to a "hostile work environment," "workplace harassment," and that he violated her rights as a disabled person.

More generally, many of his colleagues say that he could be difficult to work with, and sometimes bullied students. The Science article also has a good, well-organized account of his accomplishments (and is a good third-party WP:RS).

I don't understand from this article what he did that justified forcing him to leave. He raised a lot of money, put together all these programs, drew a large number of working-class minority students (who were unrepresented in STEM) into PhD math programs, and was sometimes supportive and encouraging, sometimes tough. He told Science, "I think that some students did not understand the rigors of the program, and that its flexibility created challenges that some students were unable to meet."

It's never pleasant to tell a student that she isn't doing well, but that's a professor's job, and it's not harassment.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/acclaimed-mentor-minority-mathematicians-relied-tough-love-some-say-he-went-too-far
Acclaimed mentor of minority mathematicians relied on tough love—but some say he went too far
By Jeffrey Mervis, Molly Stellino
Science
May. 15, 2020
--Nbauman (talk) 05:13, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hot Mess (2024)

This page is a hot mess. There's way too much to fix, so I'm outlining here some significant edits that only scratch the surface. Whoever originally authored this page had no clue on how WP citations are properly made and appeared to have difficulty in making proper citations in general. As a result, as of this writing, the majority of citations are dead or improper or wrong or seemingly random. An examination of some citations reveals that many don't support the point being made in the text -- one pointed to an NSF project of something completely irrelevant by a different person, another that purported to support the number of PhD students he mentored by 2020 actually pointed to an award he won in 2007, etc. I couldn't begin to deal with all this but focused on three things:

(1) Changing much of the language from present tense to past tense because it's 2024 and he retired in 2020.

(2) Fixing the Biography and Research sections with more coherent narrative with an encyclopedic tone rather than the non-NPV, even hagiographic tone in this page, and updating the citations. It was necessary to search the Web Archive to find useable citations, and when new citations were added I included web archive URLs as well.

(3) Including details of his retirement under a cloud that cast a negative light on some of his accomplishments. It's mystifying that someone brought attention to this well-publicized fact in THIS "Talk" page (see section above, "Science Magazine Profile") instead of the main article where it's most appropriate and an important piece of information.

As a separate note, I'm mystified that someone thought it important to vouch for the journal Science -- widely recognized as one of the most prestigious journals in the world -- as "a good third-party" source (!!!) and making the extra effort to insert the internal WP page defining reputable sources, yet not thinking it important to insert the story of Castillo-Chavez' forced retirement in the main article. Lapabc (talk) 23:18, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]