Talk:Chloe Cole
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Chloe Cole article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8Auto-archiving period: 7 days |
The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them, which has been designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Dating the info
[edit]Reference 6, by Evan Urquhart, https://www.assignedmedia.org/breaking-news/chloe-cole-gender-dysphoria-ongoing dates from March 2023. The publication itself is also poor quality in not dating their articles, but it links to a youtube interview which was properly dated Mar 12, 2023. In the intro our article says: "She still feels distress". That "still" is not age resistant without providing the date. Ferdilouw (talk) 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 July 2024
[edit]This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Thank you for improving this sensitive article.
Change from: "She still feels distress" Change to: By March 2023 she said she still felt distress"
Additional detail to add: Cole reacted to the 2024-07-22 Elon Musk / Jordan B Peterson interview on X by comparing her family's emotional experiences with gender transitioning, to that described by Musk. Reference: https://x.com/ChoooCole/status/1815544063254466691 Ferdilouw (talk) 02:51, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not done for now: This material requires coverage from reliable secondary sources to demonstrate that it is encyclopedically due for inclusion. Left guide (talk) 04:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 July 2024
[edit]This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Requesting change of the third sentence of paragraph 9 in the Legislation subsection of the Activism section (paragraph beginning "In Wyoming, state senator...").
Sentence currently reads:
"Bouchard said the focus on doctors reflects one of Cole's main concerns, namely that schools and doctors convince parents to allow their child to transition..."
Please change to:
"Bouchard said the focus on doctors reflects one of Cole's main concerns, namely her belief that schools and doctors convince parents to allow their child to transition"
In its current form, it implies that is a proven, fully accepted fact schools and doctors are universally, actively engaging in this behavior. It is not a proven, fully accepted fact and should be treated the same way any allegation would be treated. If it was a direct quote from Bouchard that would be a different matter, but it is not, it is a summary of what he said. Sevey13 (talk) 02:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Do No Harm
[edit]Cole, who turns 20 this month, works as a patient advocate for the new nonprofit Do No Harm, a leader of anti-transgender legislation, and charges up to $5,000 to speak at public events about gender ideology, according to the Young America’s Foundation, which represents conservative personalities such as Ben Shapiro.
LATimesThe organization had lobbyists registered in 2022 in at least three states — Kansas, Missouri and Tennessee — and in Florida in 2023. People associated with the group have appeared as witnesses in statehouses, including Chloe Cole, 18, listed on its website as a “patient advocate” who has spoken to lawmakers about her gender-transition reversal. ... Cole told the Kansas news outlet The Reflector this year that Do No Harm was reimbursing her travel expenses as she testified before state lawmakers. She and her lawyer did not respond to requests for comment from the AP.
APNewsIn addition to propping up medical experts, Do No Harm has paid for activist Chloe Cole’s travel when she testifies before state legislatures in support of bans on gender-affirming care for minors, Cole has said. (Cole, reached through her lawyer, did not respond to a request for comment.) Cole, 19, has testified before several legislatures about detransitioning after taking puberty blockers and hormones and having a double mastectomy.
HuffpostThe ADF and conservative media outlets have courted these detransitioners in the U.S. and U.K. (Astor, 2023; O'Donnell, 2020). In several U.S. state legislatures, detransitioner Chloe Cole has supported bans as a member of the patient and physician advocacy group Do No Harm (n.d.)
Elsevier Social Science and MedicineOther members of the group [Do No Harm] include plastic surgeon Dr. Richard Bosshardt, a fellow with FAIR in Medicine; podcaster, therapist and GETA member Stephanie Winn; ACPeds member Miriam Grossman; and anti-trans detransition activist Chloe Cole.
SPLC andOne of LiMandri’s current clients is detransitioner Chloe Cole of the group Do No Harm, who has also traveled the country testifying against gender-affirming care in recent years.
SPLCLos Angeles based journalist Lil Kalish reported that Cole spoke as an advocate for Do No Harm, a group of conservative medical professionals who are skeptical of gender-affirming care, and presented the proposal on behalf of the National Legal and Policy Center
LA Blade
Chloe Cole has been widely reported in RS to be a paid patient advocate for Do No Harm (organization) for years now. This article doesn't mention DNH once. Does anyone object to mentioning this? Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 19:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t but you may want to keep it to the first three sources and the SPLC. More ironclad in terms of reliability. Snokalok (talk) 20:10, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Gary Click interview
[edit]Assigned Media is not a particularly BLP-reliable source, so the content sourced to it getting removed was probably for the best.
How do we feel about citing the original interview[1] that AM pulled from? Since it’s words spoken by Cole herself, it should satisfy BLP sourcing requirements. Snokalok (talk) 23:40, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Biography articles of living people
- C-Class biography articles
- WikiProject Biography articles
- C-Class California articles
- Low-importance California articles
- WikiProject California articles
- C-Class WikiProject Women articles
- All WikiProject Women-related pages
- WikiProject Women articles
- C-Class LGBT articles
- WikiProject LGBT studies articles