Talk:Conditional baptism

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I doubt that converts from Mormonism are a case for conditional baptism. There is not any positive doubt that the Baptism could have been valid also (which is required for a conditional baptism; or is there?), so, they'd have to be baptized absolutely in my view.--2001:A60:1534:9401:F51B:C55B:1F3A:EAB2 (talk) 21:03, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, I'm removing this reference. The Mormon belief in a Trinity differs substantially from the Catholic belief - enough that the Catholic church has issued an official statement to that effect.User2635 (talk) 03:17, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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An erroneous sentence which has no source to support it, needs revision

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"Mainline Christian theology (including Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, Anglican, Lutheran and most other Protestants) has traditionally held that only one baptism is valid to confer the benefits of this sacrament."

This statement is misleading. Many non-RCC Christians believe that Spirit baptism & water baptism are distinct, and call neither a "sacrament." (John baptized with water, but Christ baptized with with the Spirit, even with fire.) 1 Cor 12:13 Spirit baptism. The statement about their being "benefits of this sacrament," sounds like sacramentalism. A common POV among non-RCC theologians is that water baptism is a means of identifying publicly with the Lord Jesus, but has nothing to do with salvation. The discussion should not focus on the word "validity," but on whether or not more than one water baptism is proper. And also, there is the POV that putting water on a baby, is not baptism at all, and that water baptism may not be done without the baptized person wanting it. I think I shall revise and simplify this sentence.(PeacePeace (talk) 12:39, 29 September 2019 (UTC))[reply]

The whole article seems to conflate beliefs of various Christian churchs - as near as I can tell. I'll try to clean up the worst of it, but it certainly requires more than I know of the respective religions.User2635 (talk) 03:23, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]