Talk:Czech conjugation

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Transgressives?

Hi, why are transgressives called transgressives? They look and directly translate (semantically and morphologically) into Polish participles. English examples are also participles. Same with French. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.75.119.75 (talk) 19:23, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They probably are the same as Polish participles (I'm not sure), but English active participles have a wider use. In English, you can say "looking at this letter, it seems that you need to apply by next Thursday", and because the two sides of the clause have a different subject, you can't use a transgressive for this function in Czech. - filelakesh03 (t / c) 08:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More Participles and a Gerund

There is also a present active participle in -ící, probably derived from the transgressive present.

And there is a gerund in -ání. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.145.229.154 (talk • contribs)

The -ící/-oucí forms are not active participles, but adjectives, e.g. "spící děti" = "sleeping children". There was also a -(v)ší form which is now even more archaic than the past transgressive itself, surviving only in a few set phrases (přeživší osoba = a survivor, my Latin teacher would have made us translate this nonsensically as "a having survived person"). - filelakesh03 (t / c) 08:30, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]