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Daimler Armored Cars in Iraq
[edit]We can now add Iraq to the list of countries which used these vehicles after the Second World War. There is a photo of at least two of them in a parade taken in Baghdad sometime in the late 1940s or early 1950s. This is a photograph that can be found on page 10 of Iraqi Army Equipment 1930-2017 in the Internet Archive. SASH155 (talk) 14:16, 31 July 2022 (UTC)SASH155
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Daimler Armoured Car → Daimler armoured car – Like other armoured cars, not a proper name, frequently lowercase in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 04:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose proper name, frequently capitalised in sources. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose as stated above, it should be capitalized. Ktkvtsh (talk) 01:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC)I'd like to remove my vote. Ktkvtsh (talk) 15:37, 21 October 2024 (UTC)- Like other armoured cars, sources mostly use lowercase, with an uptick in caps after Wikipedia capped it. Still not consistently capitalized in sources, so per MOS:CAPS, we shouldn't be capping it. Dicklyon (talk) 23:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support: Wikipedia's guidelines consider whether capitalisation is consistent, not just frequent. The NGram comparison above shows a lack of consistent capitalization. "Daimler" is a brand; "armoured car" is a vehicle type description, like many other similar cases that have been discussed before, including many cases listed at User:Dicklyon/MIL precedents, including Humber armoured car, King armored car, M1 armored car, T7 armored car, and T27 armored car. WP:TITLECONSISTENCY also applies. — BarrelProof (talk) 04:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support per BarrelProof's reasoning. Tony (talk) 11:03, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support per MOS:CAPS, Armoured car is a description of the vehicle like dual-cab or utility. It is certainly not a true proper nou|name, which is not descriptive (per Collins Dictionary). Furthermore, this article is not about a particular model of Daimler armoured car but two different models - the Mk I and the Mk II. Most recent ngram figures (see here) place capitalisation at 73%. However, ngrams do not distinguish usage in prose from usage in headings, captions etc where title case is expected. It is usual to apply a 10% allowance for such usage. There is also a large amount of random noise (eg large fluctuations in usage from year to year). Smoothing the curve further to reduce the background noise further reduces the apparent capitalisation (eg 62% here). While it might be argued that capitalisation is approaching the threshold of a "substantial majority", it is not yet there. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:51, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support per MOS:CAPS, WP:NCCAPS, MOS:MILCAPS, WP:CONSISTENT. The proper name here is Daimler, the rest is description, and often lower-case in external sources. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:43, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, per Andy Dingley's reasoning, even though I'm sure it will inevitably be forced through by Dicklyon (what an appropriate name!) and co, as it always is. RadiculousJ (talk) 21:37, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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