Talk:Dracul (novel)
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Copyright problem removed
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- Hey DoubleGrazing, the first paragraph of the synopsis was not copy-pasted, but the second was. Apologies for my lack of knowledge, as I'm new to this, but what's the process for writing a synopsis stub? I assumed the publisher's synopsis would be sufficient. I've rewritten from scratch. Peepeepedia (talk) 10:18, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- No worries, I removed that section, and it will shortly be suppressed in the edit history. And yes, I noticed that the entire section wasn't a copyvio, but I deleted it all anyway as it's often easier to rewrite the whole thing from scratch. I've checked your new content, and there is no copyvio in that, so well done! :) As for general advice on writing a synopsis or plot, you may find this essay useful: How to write a plot summary. And BTW, I also reviewed your article and approved it, so it is now part of the encyclopaedia, and will soon appear in Google searches etc., if it doesn't already. Thanks for your contribution, and keep up the good work! Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:09, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, forgot to ping @Peepeepedia. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:10, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks. Unfortunately, it seems Nthep accidentally(?) deleted the new additions from the revision history. Hope it can be restored because I don't want to write it again. Peepeepedia (talk) 09:37, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Nthep: did you find a copyvio in the new synopsis as well, or did I mess up the revdel request somehow? Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:43, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- @DoubleGrazing@Peepeepedia The first paragraph was still pretty much a verbatim copy of [1]. The second paragraph is a rehash but borderline enough to be ok "In his diary, Bram writes about his childhood days, largely spent bedridden in Dublin, with his siblings, Matilda and Thornley, and nanny, Ellen Crone. The Stoker children become suspicious of Ellen following a series of deaths in nearby towns. After Bram is miraculously healed from his ailments, she suddenly disappears into a bog without a trace. Matilda later departs for Paris to study, and returns after some years to report that she has once again seen Ellen – unaged. They set off to investigate Ellen, eventually revealing her connection to Dracula." Nthep (talk) 13:54, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks @Nthep. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:53, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks @Nthep:, though I still don't really get how to write a synopsis stub. I thought (as did DoubleGrazing) that my first paragraph expressed the opening of the book quite well with my own words. I'm finding it pretty difficult to _not_ say something similar to what the back cover of the book says, because that's how it starts. Peepeepedia (talk) 14:58, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- That's why I don't even attempt to write plot synopses. Nthep (talk) 15:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @DoubleGrazing@Peepeepedia The first paragraph was still pretty much a verbatim copy of [1]. The second paragraph is a rehash but borderline enough to be ok "In his diary, Bram writes about his childhood days, largely spent bedridden in Dublin, with his siblings, Matilda and Thornley, and nanny, Ellen Crone. The Stoker children become suspicious of Ellen following a series of deaths in nearby towns. After Bram is miraculously healed from his ailments, she suddenly disappears into a bog without a trace. Matilda later departs for Paris to study, and returns after some years to report that she has once again seen Ellen – unaged. They set off to investigate Ellen, eventually revealing her connection to Dracula." Nthep (talk) 13:54, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Nthep: did you find a copyvio in the new synopsis as well, or did I mess up the revdel request somehow? Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:43, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks. Unfortunately, it seems Nthep accidentally(?) deleted the new additions from the revision history. Hope it can be restored because I don't want to write it again. Peepeepedia (talk) 09:37, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, forgot to ping @Peepeepedia. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:10, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- No worries, I removed that section, and it will shortly be suppressed in the edit history. And yes, I noticed that the entire section wasn't a copyvio, but I deleted it all anyway as it's often easier to rewrite the whole thing from scratch. I've checked your new content, and there is no copyvio in that, so well done! :) As for general advice on writing a synopsis or plot, you may find this essay useful: How to write a plot summary. And BTW, I also reviewed your article and approved it, so it is now part of the encyclopaedia, and will soon appear in Google searches etc., if it doesn't already. Thanks for your contribution, and keep up the good work! Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:09, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:07, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- ... that the book Dracul makes use of the unpublished first 100 pages of Bram Stoker's Dracula manuscript? Source: "Putnam Acquires Dacre Stoker's DRACUL Novel as Screen Rights Sold to Paramount". Penguin Random House. 2017-09-08. Retrieved 2022-10-21.
Created by Peepeepedia (talk). Self-nominated at 09:51, 21 October 2022 (UTC).
- Long enough, new enough, and properly sourced (including the hook). 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 18:10, 21 October 2022 (UTC)