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Redirect from 'Daysman' to 'Adjudicator'

[Start of section copied from Boleyn's talk page:]

Dear Boleyn,
I hope you are keeping well and safe? All is well here on the West Coast of Wales.
As ever, I would like to ask you for advice, and perhaps also for action on your part if you have the time, please? A few hours ago, I created an article on Eddie Butcher, whose father was a daysman. This is a term which, in Ireland (and most likely elsewhere in the British Isles), means "a day labourer for local farmers". However, at the moment, the Wikipedia article on Daysman is a redirect to Adjudicator, a different, non-archaic meaning, confirmed by the entry in Merriam-Webster.com.^[1]
Please may I therefore impose on your kindness and expertise, and ask you to suggest the best course of action here? Do we overwrite the Redirect to create a disambiguation page that clarifies both meanings? And/Or do we involve the Wikionary in some way? When I created my article, I had hoped to be able to wikilink the word to its archaic meaning (since it applies in the article on Eddie Butcher, who shared that occupation with his father). It's a fairly unusual word and it seems to me that it would be helpful to clarify it, via a wikilink, for the benefit of our readers.
Thank you so much for your consideration and assistance with this, Boleyn.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.^(talk)^{(become old-fashioned!)} 01:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, user:Pdebee, I'm fine, thanks, enjoying the rare sunshine :) The one you've raised is really tricky. 'Daysman' is not mentioned in the article it currently redirects to, so it's not necessarily a good redirect. The meaning you mention is unlikely to merit an article (other than, as you say, on Wiktionary) but there may be a mention of it on Wikipedia, I'll take a look. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I've looked and added the term to two articles with a ref and found another mention, see Daysman now as a dab. Hope that looks OK. Boleyn (talk) 20:09, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Boleyn,

You're so good! Thank you so much for your meticulous approach; it's just what was needed, and I am most grateful to you for looking into the matter and taking these useful actions. In fact, I'll make a note of these, so that I'll be able to do this myself, next time. I hope you won't mind that I copy this section to the talk page, as a record of our exchanges? Thank you once again for your prompt and generous assistance.

With kindest regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.^(talk)^{(become old-fashioned!)} 10:16, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[End of section copied from Boleyn's talk page:]

References

^ "daysman - noun". merriam-webster.com. Springfield, MA: Merriam-Webster Dictionary. 2020. Retrieved 2 June 2020. 1 – archaic: UMPIRE, ARBITER. 2 – archaic: DAY LABORER.

Request for photos, including of Eddie Butcher senior's tombstone

Dear fellow photographic editors,
I have just added the {{Photo requested}} template, to the attention of those of you who specialise in this activity for the benefit of our encyclopaedia. It would also be really helpful if anyone residing in (or near) Magilligan could contribute a photograph of Eddie Butcher senior's tombstone, since I was unable to find any records of his precise dates of birth and death, either online or in any of the books available to me. Thank you very much in advance for any assistance with this.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.^(talk)^{(become old-fashioned!)} 14:42, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Applied strikethrough to the above request for a photo of Eddie Butcher senior's tombstone, since his dates of birth & death are documented, on pages 1 & 140, in the book All The Days Of His Life,^[1] now available to me.

Done

With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.^(talk)^{(become old-fashioned!)} 13:31, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Shields, Hugh; Shields, Lisa; Carolan, Nicholas, eds. (2011). All the Days of His Life : Eddie Butcher in His Own Words. Dublin, Ireland: Irish Traditional Music Archive. ISBN 978-0-9532704-4-6.

[Webster2020-1] "daysman - noun". merriam-webster.com. Springfield, MA: Merriam-Webster Dictionary. 2020. Retrieved 2 June 2020. 1 – archaic: UMPIRE, ARBITER. 2 – archaic: DAY LABORER.

[EBLife2011-2] Shields, Hugh; Shields, Lisa; Carolan, Nicholas, eds. (2011). All the Days of His Life : Eddie Butcher in His Own Words. Dublin, Ireland: Irish Traditional Music Archive. ISBN 978-0-9532704-4-6.

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