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Touring??

Touring the country, which country?

north america.

That's not a country. And people all over the word read wikipedia, "the country" is just a little vague Space Erased 18:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Album art

Does anyone know if Serj is using the second album art he revealed? Because on soadfans it shows the first one, but i'm pretty sure he's using the second. 74.124.28.243 16:17, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea, could you send me a link to the second art? FallenWings47 19:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i was just on the serjical strike records myspace page, and they had a pic of the final album art and it actually said final art, which i added to the page. so serj has put out three different versions, and has decided on the third one. Dissectional 21:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Praise the Lord song

Whoever said it was a cover. you have no proof, so thereofre, i have removed it. Dissectional 02:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a cover, but the song is named after an old song called "Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition"- -[The Spooky One] | ^{[t c r]}

I think is necissary to either create another Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition page, or keep it without the link to the 1942 song. The song by Serj Tankian has nothing to do with it but a simmilar title and chorus. It is also far from being a cover, too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.224.134 (talk) 22:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Again, it's not a cover. but the song will remained linked to that page, because that's where the title was created from, and it's not a single, so it's not notable enough for it's own page. - -[The Spooky One] | ^{[t c r]} 05:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lewis black routine and Elect the Dead

The title "Elect the Dead" sounds like it's a reference to Lewis Black's "It's time for a Dead President" routine. Serj has referenced other peoples work like Howard Zinn's "You can't afford to be neutral on a moving train" on the song deer dance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ProductofSociety (talk • contribs) 15:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Singles

Does anybody know what the next couple of singles are going to be? I know the "Saving Us" video is out, but does that mean it's the next single? FallenWings47 07:39, 06 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Saving Us and Feed Us

Being "Saving Us" has been released, video and all. Do you think we should (re)create the page? FallenWings47 12:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And the now "Feed Us" video is also available online. I put the links on the main article. FallenWings47 9:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Genre?

Couldn't this album's genre also be considered alternative metal? Many of the songs contain the heavy guitar riffs similar to System of a Down's. --FlyingPenguins 23:14, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, alternative metal together with experimental rock would give a better overview of the album. What I also find suitable in the genre specification is Art Rock. I mean, just the fact that Serj performs in a circus director's outfit is proof enough. the music also speaks for it. aside from experimental rock, his arrangements are more arty and theatrical. I really think it should be included.Revan ltrl (talk) 16:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter what genre you think it is. Unless a reputable source (Rolling Stone, IGN, AV Club, etc.) agrees, it doesn't belong on the page.--J.shellenbarger (talk) 09:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

sorry.but rolling stone etc... doesnt really cover solo albums by a guy with little to no promotion.so we're just going to have to collaborate intelligently —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.163.4.143 (talk) 03:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Allmusic lists "hard rock" and "progressive metal" as genres for the album. There you go. (Sugar Bear (talk) 11:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Hard Rock should be added, it can be sourced and seems to be appropriate Duck610 (talk) 04:14, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that progressive rock or experimental rock should be added, i have heard from different sources as it being called progressive. MsBlackworld (talk) 21:54, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here is one source https://www.allmusic.com/album/r1209404. It lists progressive rock and progressive metal as the genre. MsBlackworld (talk) 11:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

England?

On the release dates there is a flag of England, but not the UK, is this intentional? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.67.149.65 (talk) 10:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Music videos

The music video section now includes availability. It says only The Unthinking Majority, Empty Walls, Saving Us, Feed Us and Lie Lie Lie are available. But (sorry if this spoils anything for anyone) if you bought the deluxe edition, one of the features of the password is being able to see videos (which include Empty Walls, The Unthinking Majority, The Ultimate Serj Interview, Saving Us, Feed Us, Honking Antelope, Elect the Dead, Baby and Sky is Over respectively). It also shows when they were posted, which for Honking Antelope-Sky is Over are all between Oct. 15-17, so technically they were released before Lie Lie Lie if not the same day. FallenWings47 15:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How bout videos in Web? Can I find Sky is over, Baby, Honking Antelope etc. now, or they are not here yet? 83.28.72.229 14:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, they're on Serj's official site if you bought the limited edition and have the password. I have yet to see them on YouTube yet though. FallenWings47 15:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Censorship of song title

It seems like there might be some dispute over whether the song should be titled "Beethoven's Cunt" or "Beethoven's C***". In this edit an unregistered user blanked out the obscenity. Two subsequent attempts to undo that (here and here) were both automatically reverted by ClueBot. I've made my own attempt, we'll see if it sticks. I have to say I'm not 100% sure what the title really is (almost, but not quite). If it turns out the censored title is really the "correct" one, well, I'm sorry. Here're my thoughts and research results on the matter:

A lot of web sites have it censored (as C*** or something else)
A lot of web sites don't.
It's seems likely that the sites that have it as "C***" are censoring themselves.
Wikipedia is not censored; see WP:CENSOR. So if the obscenity is really part of the song title, it belongs in the article.
A source that used to be cited in the article [1] (but has since been removed; recently) has it uncensored.

-- Why Not A Duck 21:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On his website its listed as "Beethovens C***", so I guess thats what he wants the song to be known as.Emmure 89 (talk) 07:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have tryed to change it to Beethovens C*** as it is what is on the back of the cd and on Serj's website. So therefore it must be the real name of the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SecondMouse (talk • contribs) 10:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC) Im going to give up trying to change it now. wiki just doesnt except that its the real name and not a censoring.SecondMouse (talk) 11:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, WP is not censored, but in this case, it needs to be Beethoven's C--- that is what appears on the back of the CD itself and when you buy it on itunes that's what it's named as. - -[The Spooky One] | ^{[t c r]} 18:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't own the album, so I have to say - what does it say in the album sleeve? Take a look at Nymphetamine - on this article, there is a song called "Gilded Cunt". On the cover, it is censored, but in the album sleeve, it clearly calls the song "Gilded Cunt", so I think it's worth looking in the booklet. ≈ The Haunted Angel 18:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The song name is Beethoven's Cunt. You can see it in the last paragraph of the album booklet. I'd qoute it but I can't find it.

Larry LaLonde?

I believe Primus guitarist Larry LaLonde performs on this album, though I could be mistaken. I don't see his name mentioned as one of the contributing musicians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.21.224.137 (talk) 22:00, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If he does, it's not credited on the album. Serj did the bass, guitar, piano, and most instrumentation on the album, the article states that some other people helped on varius tracks. but the name Lary LaLonde never comes up..- -[The Spooky One] | ^{[t c r]} 19:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

inside artwork

I think there should be something about the pictures and things on the inside artwork of the album, like the little story that has each song name or the repeated appearance of the "All Seeing Eye"(which is in the Feed Us music video, if I am correct.) (76.121.133.169 (talk) 19:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

What encyclopedic function would this serve?--J.shellenbarger (talk) 09:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rolling Stone did not review the album twice

I'm removing the infobox statement that Rolling Stone reviewed the album again in 2010. The website does make it seem like it's a second review for Elect the Dead, but if you read the body text of the 2010 review it's actually review for Elect the Dead Symphony. If you REALLY need me to prove it I could scan the page on the magazine or something, but its pretty obvious from the text of the reivew. FinalWish (talk) 04:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

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Article requirements:

Y Start: reasonably complete infobox; lead section with overview of album; track listing; reference to at least primary personnel by name; Categorization by at least artist and year.
Y C: all of start and (1) cover art in infobox; (2) at least one additional section of prose; (3) track lengths & song authors in tracklist; (4) a personnel section including all musicians.

→In order to reach the more rigorous new B Class criteria, the article needs to be organized according to WP:LAYOUT, with a lead section that summarizes the body of the article. The last three sentences of the current lead section do not flow, but should be placed into paragraph formation. Sourcing is for the most part very good, although the last few sentences need improvement there as well.

B: all of C and (1) most technical details in infobox; (2) technical personnel in personnel section; (3) no obvious issues with sourcing; (4) no obvious issues with readability, though it may not conform completely to style guidelines; (5) no glaring omissions of information (see some suggestions at WP:ALBUM) or extraneous information, like trivia.
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