Talk:Eppa Hunton IV

GA Review

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Reviewer: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 17:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

I'll review this nomination in the coming days. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Sending a gentle reminder to you, @PCN02WPS, as it's been a few weeks. Thanks so much for volunteering to review this article! I've put a lot of work into it! If you have stability concerns, I know I've made a number of small edits since putting in the nomination, but I should be done — at least until you recommend any changes in your review. Thanks again! Rockhead126 (talk) 21:04, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your patience and I appreciate the reminder - the first round of exams at school limited the amount of time I was able to spend on Wikipedia. The article is very nicely written; comments are below, take as much time as you need. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:44, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Hey @PCN02WPS. Thank you for your thoughtful comments. I've made most of the recommended changes and would appreciate your weighing in further where appropriate. Good luck on your exams, and thanks again! Rockhead126 (talk) 02:27, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

@Rockhead126: a few responses below. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

@PCN02WPS, I addressed the remaining issues. Let me know if you have any additional concerns. Rockhead126 (talk) 20:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Awesome, I think with that we're good to go. Well done! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 01:07, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Lead and infobox

• "in 1927 he joined the firm his father co-founded, Hunton, Williams, Anderson & Gay (now Hunton Andrews Kurth) and practiced corporate law," → this gets a little confusing with all of the commas; I would recommend an unspaced em-dash after "co-founded" and after "...Kurth)" in order to avoid this

Y Done.

• His wife's death (and therefore the end of their marriage) can be added to the infobox

Y Done.

Early life and family

• "Hunton was born on July 31, 1904 in" → comma after "1904" per MOS:DATECOMMA

Y Done.

• "from Warrenton, Virginia just " → comma after "Virginia" per MOS:GEOCOMMA

Y Done.

• "the former in the Virginia House of Delegates, the latter in the United States House of Representatives and United States Senate" → add "and" before "the latter in..."

Y Done.

• "Among the law school's professors at the time were" → did Hunton take classes from these professors or were they just employed by the school at the time? If it's the latter, I'd recommend removing them as that seems a bit too tangential to include on his page, though if he did take classes from them I'd recommend specifying that but removing any that aren't wiki-linked as then the reader has no way of knowing who they are other than a law school professor

N Unfortunately, I haven't found any information on what professors Hunton took classes with. I included these three, as they were probably the most notable men teaching during Hunton's time at U.Va. Law. Looking at the Corks & Curls yearbook, there aren't many law professors listed at all, so it's a very real possibility Hunton took classes taught by each of them. Graves was an institution, and I'm almost certain every U.Va. Law graduate at the time took at least one class with him, but I have no evidence to back that claim up. With all that said, should I nix it? Tell me what you think.

I think the individuals with their own articles are good to stay (as they pass the tongue-in-cheek "notability" test) but there isn't a ton of context for Lile so IMO I think he should be removed. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

I created an article for Lile, as I believe he clearly meets notability guidelines, and wikilinked in order to provide necessary context.

• "on September 28, 1936 in a ceremony" → comma after "1936" per DATECOMMA

Y Done.

• who is Dr. Kinloch Nelson? Is there any context that can be given to let the reader know who this is?

Y Done. It's entirely possible Nelson and Hunton could've known each other before college from Richmond society, but they both attended U.Va. for undergrad, Nelson starting the year before Hunton, both earning B.A. degrees. According to their yearbooks, they were in a number of the same organizations. I think it's appropriate to describe Nelson as a "college classmate." I also added that Nelson was the future dean of VCU Medical School. Let me know if you think that's an appropriate addition.

That is great, and provides the needed context. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Career

• "then known as Hunton, Williams, Anderson & Gay, in September of the following year, upon his graduation from law school" → I'd recommend rearranging the last two bits of this sentence to eliminate one of the commas, perhaps to read something like this: "...Anderson & Gay, upon his graduation from law school in September of the following year."

N Edited the wording to say "shortly after" rather than "upon." Keeping the second comma, as editing would make it sound like he graduated in September, when he likely graduated in May or June.

• "on May 27, 1935 and argued" → comma after 1935

Y Done.

• "three further four-year terms on the MCV board: from 1954 to 1958, from 1959 to 1963, and from 1964 to 1968" → would it be incorrect to say something like "three further four-year terms on the MCV board, from 1954 to 1968"?

N I believe the existing wording is a bit better as it's more descriptive and accounts for the year-long gaps in his service. Do you think it'd be a bit more digestible if I wrote, "three further four-year terms on the MCV board: from 1954 to 1958, 1959 to 1963, and 1964 to 1968"?

Fair enough, with that being said I think it's fine as is. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Later life and death

• "at approximately 7:00pm, a truck" → should be "7:00 pm" per MOS:TIME

Y Done.

• "close to his home, in Henrico County" → comma seems unneeded to me here

Y Done.

• "where he died at 7:50pm of injuries" → space needed here per above

Y Done.

• 'and professional responsibility."' → period should be outside quotes

N Would this be correct? I learned that, in American English, the period goes inside the quotation marks without exception.

I believe this would fall under MOS:LQ which specifies that the punctuation should be outside of the quotes since the quoted material isn't a complete sentence. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Y You got me there. Done.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 14:02, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that Eppa Hunton Jr. and his son, Eppa Hunton IV, the namesakes of the Hunton Student Center at Virginia Commonwealth University, served a combined 50 years on the Medical College of Virginia's board of visitors? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/110967625/; https://www.newspapers.com/clip/109913407/
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  • Comment: I've also expanded the article on Eppa Hunton Jr. since Eppa Hunton IV received GA status and would like to include it in this hook if possible.

Created by Rockhead126 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:58, 9 October 2022 (UTC).

• No need for QPQ, only two credits to date. I'd like a bit more hookyness, but this seems ok. Jnr was 5x expanded, whilst IV was GA'd. No copyvio found. Seems good to me Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:53, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
  • I debated adding that EHIV was the grandson of two Confederate generals as an ALT, as that's probably a more interesting hook, but I do like the idea of including both him and his father and giving a shoutout to my hometown university. I'll give the community a chance to weigh in. Rockhead126 (talk) 20:48, 9 October 2022 (UTC)