Talk:Excursion train

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Photographs

Photographs shuold illustrate the article. Presently the article is heavily biased towards British steam-hauled excursions - many of the photographs of which are very low quality. In many cases, better photographs are available. Different countries, different haulage.

This article also includes a large number of low quality images. While I will be polite to those without photographic skills, of the following the first might be useful. The second and Tornado are OK. The others are incompentently taken snapshots of no illustrative merit whatsoever.

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  An old one from 1985... OK
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  This is the same train as the last one - what does it add?
• Composition is relatively poor - subject too central. Lighting is flat, cloudy and dull.
  Composition is relatively poor - subject too central. Lighting is flat, cloudy and dull.
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  Composition is even worse than the last one
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  Amazingly, composition is still even worse than the last one
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  this cannot be the best shot of Tornado we have
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  LMS Royal Scot Class 6100 Royal Scot Taken and inserted into the article by the same person
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  Same as before
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  A photo of nothing in particular
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  This is a mess
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  This is more of a mess than the previous one
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  More awful composition and lighting

Galleries are almost all, almost always, bad. Even if the photographs were excellent, they'd be too small to see. Mostly though, we have a large number of very similar images.

I'd like to see a more international range. Germany has some good ones. Then photographs (which don't have to come from the same country) of subjects like "Powerful loco working hard with a heavy train across an impressive piece of scenery", "Loco close-up in a platform", "Crowd of non-passenger spectators watching a famous loco passing through a village", "Early 1970s British image of people swarming the four foot" and then "1980s group of damp gricers in anoraks, up some obscure freight line on a chartered DMU". Andy Dingley (talk) 17:52, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughtful commentary User:Andy Dingley! Let's see if we can find some good ones. Tony May (talk) 00:43, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

The way you lot are going on you would rather I never uploaded images to wiki, which is fighting talk from you Tony as you havent uploaded a single image yourself. Moylesy98 (talk) 02:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Now you come to mention it Dave, uploading photos isn't really a problem. The problem, as I've tried to explain to you, multiple times, once again, is that you are inserting your low quality images into articles. They are not helpful to the articles, and you don't WP:OWN the article and have a right to do so. I understand you don't realise that they are low quality, because I realise you don't understand photography, and I don't think you understand WP:OWN - which means you don't understand Wikipedia. So once again, you're not listening. Tony May (talk) 03:40, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Special Train redirect

Currently the term 'special train' redirects to this article. However, the article seems to deal with only one type of special train. Historically, a special train might also be a leased working transport for circuses, ice shows, large stage productions, etc. Shouldn't there be a separate article covering the larger use of the term? Saratoga Sam (talk) 01:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC)