Talk:Fenchurch Street railway station

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Smallest

With the addition of platforms at Marylebone, does this make Fenchurch Street the smallest terminus (ignoring peak trains at City Thameslink)? Simply south 16:58, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In terms of platforms then yes I think so. In terms of passengers though Fenchurch Street has about 10 million more per year than Marylebone. Thryduulf 17:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Managed by Network Rail

This article says that Fenchurch St is "one of 18 stations managed by Network Rail" but others say there are 17. Which is it? Dmccormac (talk) 20:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Network Rail say 18. Ansbaradigeidfran (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Left Luggage Office

"Life, the Universe and Everything" Chapter 13 mentions a Left Luggage Office - did one ever exist at Fenchurch Street Station?122.107.237.138 (talk) 11:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History Section

When viewing the page, does the first line of the history section overlap into the Infobox? I would sort it but i dont know how! :) Jazz McCrack (talk) 13:07, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a problem. Which browser are you using? --Redrose64 (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm using Chrome, I've just reinstalled and it's fine now! Probably a setting I changed somewhere due to my ridiculously bad eyesight! Jazz McCrack (talk) 12:55, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Revert

There are at least two things wrong with your revert, there is only one approach and the depots are not "along them" but connected by short branch lines. Oh and please don't keek mentioning the stations name most readers willundersand that station will do. 86.180.93.48 (talk) 17:08, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Images

@Jkd4855: Please justify why your images make the article continue to meet the good article criteria, with particular regard to image relevance. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 18:38, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ritchie333: there are no pictures of (modern) platforms on the page so I decided to add two pictures of the platforms, i beive this is relevant because it shows the condition of the station today Jkd4855 (talk) 18:43, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How does a picture of a platform help the reader gain an understanding of the topic? A picture of the main facade, sure that helps explain the architecture, a historic photo explains former detail, but this is just some random picture of a train. It could be taken anywhere. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 18:48, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ritchie333: It shows the reader the modern architecture of the platforms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkd4855 (talk • contribs)

I have to say that the facade of a station is quite possibly the least useful sort of photo for the infobox IMO. While a doric arch or stained glass window might make a nice picture, it doesn't really help understanding of the purpose of the thing.

Having looked at the versions you both created, Ritchie's version clearly lacks a modern platform view, and that is a significant problem for me. Optimist on the run removed one of the two platform photos from Jkd's version, but clearly kept the wrong photo as I took the other one! What I would expect to see is a modern day version of File:Fenchurch Street Station 2035795 5ec533e7.jpg, to see how it changed. The facade has not changed at all so there's no need to have two photos of it. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:40, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The real problem I think is where do you put the images? The first section on location and services is jammed up against the infobox and it's hard to make anything fit. The "history" section is the wrong place, I think, and later sections don't seem to have room. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:43, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Split the first section up into "Description" and "Services" - this section is severely lacking, I've written GAs of 1tph stations with better descriptions of the services. Move the NR routebox up there too. Add descriptions of platform lengths, numbering, facilities, etc - everything you'd want to know about the current status. Admittedly the infobox is rather tall though. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:44, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I just had a look on commons, and I found this image which, while not brilliant photographically, gives a fair overall view of the present platform layout. G-13114 (talk) 22:35, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've uploaded a new version of it with perspective corrected. -mattbuck (Talk) 07:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Mattbuck that splitting "Location" and "Services" is a good idea (this was the first station GA I had a go at, and have got more of an idea what normally goes on now) and dropped in the picture mentioned here. I don't like the image in "Location" now as it overhangs into the "History" section on my browser, and I've never found a good way of getting right-aligned images and infoboxes to play nicely with each other. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:47, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Any images in the 'services' section ought to include a typical train used in the current service to be relevant. Geof Sheppard (talk) 12:42, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ritchie333, there's a very simple solution to your problem: lots and lots of writing! -mattbuck (Talk) 21:21, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Transfer from Network Rail to c2c

When did c2c take over operating the station from Network Rail? It's not in the article and I can't find it in any of the sources either. XAM2175 ^(T) 19:03, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]