Talk:Fujara

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Pedal tone

I noticed that someone wrote that not all fujaras play the pedal tone... I have yet to hold a fujara that doesn't... and I am counting even the worst fujaras in Slovakia. Can someone please explain from where or from what experience that idea came from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cerrunos1 (talk • contribs) 13:09, 28 September 2006

My source was http://www.fujara.sk/play/fingering_technique.htm -- see last line of the table near the bottom. -- Rsholmes 14:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but using a source such as www.fujara.sk, which is great for shopping but of shaky credibility when looking for facts, may lead to some pretty heavy misinformation. I play fujara-and lived in Slovakia (recently moved to the USA,) and played MANY fujaras. There is not one playable fujara that does not allow the pedal tone to be played- it is like saying that there are trombones that don't allow the pedal to sound. The instrument's quality lies in how WELL the fundamental sounds and how easy it is to control. If a playable fujara does not sound the fundamental, the problem is in the player, not the instrument. Anyway, the fundamental is a breathing technique, not a fingering technique. "Rybarske Cifry" is a fingering technique....

Cerrunos1 05:10, 16 December 2006 (UTC)Cerrunos1[reply]

You certainly know more than I do on the subject, and I certainly grant the possibility that you know more than the authors of www.fujara.sk. But what's really needed is a credible source that can be cited; facts in WP articles should be verifiable... -- Rsholmes 12:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

it's hard to prove a universal negative. i doubt anyone is going to collect and test all the fujaras ever constructed. what evidence do you have that it's physically possible for a simple device like a fujara to play overtones without being able to play the fundamental frequency? the fundamental frequency on a fujara can only be played very quietly. if there is too much ambient noise, you will not hear it. — Chris Capoccia ^T⁄_C 18:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]