Talk:Gáe Bulg

Curruid & Coinchenn

Pretty sure it was the Curruid that became the Gae Bulg, and not the Coinchenn. See here:

"Two monsters that were upon the sea,

Which fought a fierce, angry battle;

Their names, I well remember were

The Curruid and the Coinchenn.

Curruid fell in the furious fight

By the noble, fierce Coinchenn;

Upon the boisterous, proud, Red Sea,

On the ridge of the cool and deep abyss.

Bolg Mac Buain, a champion famed,

Discovered the skull of the Curruid upon the strand,

Whither it fled from the sea abroad,

Closely pursued by the Coinchenn."

(-from a poem collected in the early 18th century, cited in On the Manners and Customs of the Ancient Irish, by Eugene Curry, 1873)

https://books.google.com/books?id=vbkLM59fuWEC&pg=PA311&lpg=PA311#v=onepage&q&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.198.236 (talk) 17:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

So I think the bone was taken from the Curruid, not the Coinchenn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Araanim (talk • contribs) 12:25, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Untitled

Uhm I am not too sure, but isn't the exact name Gáe Bolga?

it's a matter of orthography, which was not standardized when the stories in question were first written down. Whateley23 07:29, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Foster Brother?

I have a question regarding Cu Chulainn's relation to Ferdiad. According to the legend the two warriors trained under Scáthach. It's just that I don't think they were foster brothers. I know that Cu Chulainn is Conall the Victorious' step brother. But I think that Cu Chulainn and Ferdiad were best friends. Sonalchagi 12:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

From Táin Bó Cualnge from the Book of Leinster, ed & trans by Cecile O'Rahilly, p. 210: "Then the men of Ireland considered what man should be sent to fight with Cú Chulainn in the hour of early morning on the morrow. They all said that it should be Fer Diad mac Damáin meic Dáire, the brave warrior from Fir Domnand. For similar and equal was their power of fighting and combat. With the same fostermothers, Scáthach and Úathach and Aífe, had they learnt the arts of valour and arms, and neither of them had any advantage over the other save that Cú Chulainn possessed the feat of the ga bulga. ... Then messengers and envoys were sent for Fer Diad. Fer Diad refused and denied and again refused those messengers and he did not come with them, for he knew what they wanted of him, which was, to fight with his friend and companion and fosterbrother, Cú Chulainn mac Sualtaim, and so he came not with them." (emphasis added) --Nicknack009 14:33, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I wan't aware that Scáthach, Úathach and Aífe were their foster mothers. That actually makes it kind of odd since there is a part about Cù chulainn "loving" Aífe. Sonalchagi 22:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Query

Given the description of the weapon, (ie it's ability to pierce nearly any shield, and/or armor, as well as lethal barbs) isn't possible that it's origins are in the Soliferrum? Also, the Gáe Bulg was supposedly wrought from the bones of a sea monster. IIRC, the bones of most supernatural beasts of the time were generally made of anything but (ordinary) bone. Behemoth, from the book of Job, for example, was described as having bones of iron. I know this is original research/ speculation, I'm just raising the question to find out if anyone with an actual specialty in such things has come to the same (or a similar) conclusion.76.179.230.4 (talk) 07:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Merger

The "In Popular Culture" article could simply be a sub-heading in the primary Gáe Bulg article. TheWhitefire (talk) 17:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

There's nothing sourced, so I just made it redirect instead. Otherwise, I would be "merging" the contents and then removing them as unsourced. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Gáe Bulg

Hey guys, Has this spear something to do with Bulgars and Scythians (Fir Bolg)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix1129 (talk • contribs) 11:47, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

No. Cagwinn (talk) 23:24, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation

How exactly is Gáe Bulg pronounced? Can someone add this to the article? 80.222.35.215 (talk) 19:48, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Guy Bul-g. The accent on the a makes it an ah sound and the e changes that a bit, guy is close. Can also be Guy Bol-ga, depending on the spelling which has some variations. Compare the three variations of "sean" https://www.bitesize.irish/blog/our-fada/ I think that also puts the phonetic "ge" pronunciation as wrong as it is ignoring the fada. 216.154.62.174 (talk) 15:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Confusing sentence

What does "cast from the fork of the toes" mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:448:C300:6E10:65E7:516D:BCD1:19A1 (talk) 03:25, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Spear light or stone?

Is there anything about a spear with a light or stone with light. 74.99.83.245 (talk) 17:07, 22 October 2023 (UTC)