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Are these two same or different?

There is another fossil park in the district/state (at least, another articale in wikipedia) named Mandla Plant Fossils National Park.

Are these fossil parks same or differrent? Rayabhari (talk) 10:47, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinate error

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I've emended the coordinates. Better now? Deor (talk) 19:52, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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From what I can find Mandla Plant Fossils National Park seems to be a made up park, probably created by the initial article author, A quick look at google maps shows that the purported location of the park is actually the location of the Ghughua Fossil Park. I suggest either wholesale deletion of this article, or redirection and history merge into Ghughua Fossil Park. Notifying recent editors of that article and relevant wkiprojects. @Wizardman and BrownHairedGirl: --Kev min § 01:21, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with that, given that I couldn't find anything of note about Mandla. The original article writer has a history of that kind of issue unfortunately, and it's been a slow process chipping away at the unverifiable stuff. Rather than a merge though I would just redirect Mandla to this one since there's nothing verifiable to merge. Wizardman 02:12, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As commented at WT:PLANTS a Hindustan Times article of unclear date described Mandla Fossil Park as distinct from Ghughua Fossil Park (in Mandla District rather than Dindori District, and 100km distant). Mandla Fossil Park has a bit of a footprint in Indian/tourism websites, but I failed to find any official (Indian/state government documentation). Lavateraguy (talk) 08:35, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How much weight should we be putting on the veracity of that article, given that no peer reviewed sources discuss Mandla as a site at all other then as "fossils in the Mandla district", and as noted the google maps location information places it as the same location as Ghughua, including images of the Ghughua entry arch. If the hindustan article is post WP article creation can it be trusted to NOT just be a mirror of the original hoax article that was made here on wiki?.--Kev min § 15:38, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not convinced that the Hindustan Times article is based on the Wikipedia article for Mandla Fossil Park. However on reflection I think it can be discounted when evaluating that Wikipedia article; the Wikipedia article was created in 2005, and the Mandla district site was discovered in 2006. It remains conceivable that Mandla Fossil Park is current as an alternative name for Ghughua Fossil Park; the Mandla Traps is a subprovince of the Deccan Traps large igneous province, and contains the Ghughua and neighbouring sites - Mandla Fossil Park is plausible as a shortened form of Mandla Traps Fossil Park. There are some sites that refer to Ghughua or Mandla Fossil Park - but are these independent of Wikipedia, or attempts to reconcile Wikipedia with what's on the ground? There are also sites that look unlikely to have taken the name from Wikipedia.

There are multiple variants of the name - Ghughua or Mandla), sometimes Plant, Fossil and/or National, mostly in that order, and Park, with varying rates of occurrence on the web. It's not clear to me which is official, even after searching gov.in. I've failed to achieve a coherent synthesis of the evidence. Lavateraguy (talk) 09:55, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's any doubt that the two Wikipedia articles refer to the same place (it's conceivable that some information about the other site has crept in). I'm not sure whether the correct action is a merge or delete. Lavateraguy (talk) 09:55, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Lavateraguy: The problem with that is that "Mandla Traps Fossil Park" isnt a place, there are no reliable sources that indicate such a park exists. As you note the Mandla Traps encompass all the fossil deposits of the age in question for that region. The original 2005 wiki article does NOT list any citations at all, ad there are no reliable sources, especially no peer reviewed paleontology sources that use any form of the name "Mandla Plant Fossils National Park". All peer reviewed lit discussion is about the Ghughua Fossil Park and Ghughua as part of the Mandla geologic province.--Kev min § 18:39, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mandla Plant Fossils National Park was redirected to Ghughua Fossil Park by User:Kevmin on 04 November 2021. Therefore, I have removed the merge template from Ghughua Fossil Park. GeoWriter (talk) 17:17, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]