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Removed species and specimens

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It seems several species have been removed from the genus recently, and we have some images on Commons that seem to show specimens belonging to other genera. It's a bit confusing, though, but it seems only the specimens shown in the article now are accepted as part of the genus. What are the rest?[1] FunkMonk (talk) 16:30, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I could match:
  • Dollo’s specimen (IRSNB R47) - "File:Goniopholis simus.jpg", "File:Goniopholis simus 1.jpg", "File:Goniopholis simus 2.jpg" and "File:Goniopholis simus 3.jpg" based on Andrade et al., 2011
  • Amphicotylus stovalli (or E. stovalli??) - "File:Goniopholis skull.JPG" based on Allen (2010) thesis [specimen OMNH 2392], as well as the author of the photo (Mitternacht90), and also "Oklahoma"
  • Amphicotylus gilmorei - "File:Goniopholis skeleton, Stegosaurus skeleton.JPG" based only on the author of the photo (Ninjatacoshell). [A. gilmorei is known only from CM 2312, so I'm not sure about this...]
Is there a Amphicotylus gilmorei and lucasii? The article doesn't mention those species, are they sunonyms or recently added? And I think I added the species name to the file description, don't remember on what grounds... FunkMonk (talk) 17:06, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dollo’s specimen - "File:Goniopholis.jpg", based on the description ("Iguanodon site in Bernissart") and the completeness of the material

Rnnsh (talk) 17:02, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, so many of them are still unnamed it seems... Also, this article states there are Nannosuchus in the US, but isn't it only from the UK? FunkMonk (talk) 17:06, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is! My bad... Rnnsh (talk) 17:22, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • On that mounted cast: " This specimen was discovered at Bone Cabin Quarry in 1993. Skull measures: 19.5 inches (49.5 cm) long, 10 inches (25.4 cm) wide, 6 inches (15.2 cm) high."[2] Undescribed maybe? FunkMonk (talk) 17:16, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if it's the same one, but according to paleodb the only loricatan from this quarry is a "Crocodylia indet." (based on Miles & Hamblin, 1999). Rnnsh (talk) 17:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"The specimen is one of less than ten associated skeletons of Goniopholis found in the Morrison Formation so far. The best specimens have been found recently, including a nearly complete Goniopholis from Bone Cabin Quarry in Wyoming (now at the Gunma Museum of Natural History)."
ref: Hups et al. (2006)
It wasn't referred to any particular species. Rnnsh (talk) 11:38, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. Seems like these guys didn't get much taxonomic love until recently... FunkMonk (talk) 07:09, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]