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Smokies and Blue Ridge

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The Great Smoky Mountains article implies that the Blue Ridge is a separate range, while the Blue Ridge Mountains article says that the Blue Ridge Mountains include the Smokies. Can anyone offer some insight on resolving this?

The USGS defines the Blue Ridge Physiographic Province as including the Great Smoky Mountains. Many sources for this. Here's the first I found:
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/LivingWith/VolcanicPast/Places/volcanic_past_appalachians.html
Which says part way down:
"Great Smoky Mountains National Park lies within the Appalachian Blue Ridge geologic and physiographic province."
Pfly 19:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


The Blue Ridge Mountains officially include the Smokies, but the term "Blue Ridge Mountains" is usually used generically to refer to the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina and southern Virginia. Part of the nomenclature mix-up is due to the route of the Blue Ridge Parkway running from Virginia to North Carolina, and barely touching the Smokies (which is a separate national park).

Bms4880 10:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's very confusing how these sources directly disagree with each other.

They don't "directly disagree." The initial post above was from 10 years ago. This article states the Smokies are part of the Blue Ridge, and the Blue Ridge article notes the range encompasses the Smokies. BrineStans (talk) 14:18, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Smoky Mountain Picture

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I have a picture that might go well with this article. Would this be worthwhile? [1]

ReverieHikes 04:50, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's a beautiful addition -- thank you so very much! --A. B. (talk) 00:15, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I tried to add a vid of a waterfall in the Smoky Mountains. Please help make it correct. Thank you in advance. Geraldshields11 (talk) 16:37, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Digital Image Collection for park photos

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I'd like to suggest linking to this site:  :http://diglib.lib.utk.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?c=rth;page=index;sid=18d128ac1737555c9aca37ff897cd81c;g=gsmc because it offers some historic photos of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.171.99.31 (talk) 04:12, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great find. I added the link to the entire project. The project's old Arrowmont site went defunct a few months ago, but I see it has all been integrated into this one large site. Bms4880 (talk) 03:58, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


For god's sake, a small reference in "Inglorious Basterds" finds it's way here. The main character mentions hailing from Maynardville, TN. Although it's an hours drive NW, the town itself is not in the park. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.160.175 (talk) 20:25, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Smokey" Mountains

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There does seem to be some use of the variant spelling "Smokey Mountains". This site notes that the spelling "Smokey Mountains" is often used in western North Carolina. Here is the "Great Smokey Mountain Fish Camp". This site uses "Smoky" and "Smokey" on the same page, as does this site. This site uses "Smokey" consistently. And here is USAToday Travel Tips using both spellings. You can find a number of web sites and business names that use the "Smokey" spelling. I would argue that "Smokey Mountains" is a regional alternate spelling, and not simply a "misspelling". -- Donald Albury 00:26, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth the USGS seems to stick with "Smoky". The GNIS database doesn't even list "Smokey" as a variant" for U.S. Geological Survey Geographic Names Information System: Great Smoky Mountains or U.S. Geological Survey Geographic Names Information System: Great Smoky Mountains National Park. See also Great Smoky Mountains, National Park Service. On the other hand, there are numerous sources in addition to the ones you pointed out that use "Smokey". If nothing else, "smokey" is an acceptable variant spelling of "smoky", at least in the US. We have "Smokey Bear", which apparently is a play on the slang "smokey" for "wide-brimmed hat" (according to the OED). Also the OED's "smoky" entry says Forms: Also...smokie,...smokey (common in U.S.);....smoakie,...smoaky. Further, Merrian-Webster's "smoky" entry says "smokey" is a "variant". Still, as far as the US Board of Geographic Names is concerned, the mountains are the "Great Smoky Mountains", not "Smokey". That's about an official as we get in the US, altough their authority is fairly limited. I'm rather surprised they don't even list "Smokey" as a "variant". In short, I agree with you, except I'm not sure "Smokey" is a regional spelling--I suspect it turns up all over the country--nor, as far as I can tell, is "smokey" a misspelling (although I might have thought it was before writing this) so much as a variant. Pfly (talk) 10:26, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have to admit that I would feel more comfortable if I could find something I could cite as a reliable source for "Smokey Mountains". -- Donald Albury 00:08, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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"...two years in the Google, or Great Smokey..."

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https://archive.org/stream/wefarmforhobbyma00tetlrich#page/59/mode/1up

if someone could investigate this further, I called the park and asked the Ranger if he had aver heard of the park referred to as the Google, but he said... No.

I just like that is was used before the internet, and would love it cited here if appropriate.

The book is "We Farm For a Hobby (and make it pay)" written by Henry Tetlow in published in 1938.

I have also sent this info to info@Google.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.228.106.16 (talk) 05:38, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard that used as a synonym, though nonsense words depicting ruggedness were frequently used to refer to the Smokies during that period. A quick glance at the Chronicling America archives (very old newspapers) suggests "google" was typically used as an adjective for "eyes" (e.g., "he looked upon the city with google eyes..."). The reference in the book above may have something to do with The Google Book published in 1913, which depicts a strange, surrealist land. BrineStans (talk) 17:01, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Map

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Interesting that in an article on the Great Smoky Mountains we have a map showing the Appalachians as a whole and divided into Northern Appalachians, Cumberland Plateau, Valley & Ridge, Blue Ridge Mountains, and Piedmont; but there's nothing on the map showing where the Great Smoky Mountains, although below the map it does list the Blue Ridge Mountains as the "Parent Range." Do the Smokies simply correspond to the boundaries of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park? I'm sure there's a map of that available.

compliment

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The photo from 2007 is very beautiful Sebbers1010292929 (talk) 17:41, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]