Talk:Haddington, East Lothian

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Famous people

Famous people from Haddington - Who is Kathleen Maclennan? ~~LP

Indeed. I searched on Google and found nothing. Should we delete her?

Kleinzach 08:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Notable people"

I have just placed this on the user Talk page of Deiz: Can you explain on the Haddington Talk page why you removed: David Gilfillan, Columbia recording guitarist was born in Haddington. Please note that I was not the person who originally posted this info, but I think you owe us an explanation.

Kleinzach 15:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any additions to the list should be persons who already have WP articles, or who the lister is about to create an article upon, per the redlinks guidelines at WP:CONTEXT. I'm personally aware that WIllie Wood is notable, and happy that the rationale for John Gray asserts enough notability. I removed a redlink to David Gilfillan, as he does not have a WP article and his notability (which should be in line with WP:BIO and / or WP:MUSIC has not been asserted. The official policy at WP:V is very important when compiling such lists. Deizio 15:05, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea whether David Gilfillan is notable or not. I think the person who made the entry should justify his inclusion. (There is a possibility that he relates to Philadelphia rather than Easy Lothian.) So his deletion may well be justified.

On the other hand, I don't agree with the idea that anyone listed must already have an article. If that was really the case Wikipedia would never grow. Wikipedia policies should surely be interpreted with common sense, Kleinzach 16:39, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We're talking "notable" people here. Having a WP article proves sufficient notability, but you're right in saying that people don't need to have an article to be named in a list - however, their notability should be externally verified through an external link, or at the very least strongly and explicitly asserted in the article. Otherwise we leave ourselves open to vanity and nonsense. WP has to grow within the policies and guidelines set by the community and need not be in a big hurry, check out WP:CHILL for more of my thoughts on this. Also, I think your tone ("I think you owe us an explanation") was a bit strong, given that a) I was entirely justified in removing the line, and b) you've never heard of the guy. I've been a pretty big source of East Lothian content on Wikipedia (check out the East Lothian page history and my stuff), and I want to see as much solid verified info about home as possible. Deizio 21:18, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fair enough. I agree with you that we need to keep out 'vanity and nonsense' content. I just think that if you had written here on the Talk page - and checked before deleting - then everything would have gone smoothly and there would have been an accessible record of what had been done. Regards. - Kleinzach 22:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet as, I would hate to be responsible for the deletion of a notable Haddingtonian ;) Most of the WP stuff I edit on is pretty rough-and-tumble, changes like this are not much of a big deal, but you're right, pages like this should be a place for all of us to relax... Nice one, Deizio 01:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am proud to be a resident of Haddington - but don't worry, I am not going to list myself as a famous person! - Kleinzach 08:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haddingtonshire

It was called this almost until the 20th century. So I think references before then should give it the name in use at the time of the reference. (In any case there is a redirection in place taking you to East Lothian when you click on Haddingtonshire). I have three maps here: 1707, 1815 and 1854. They all call it Haddingtonshire. Angus is another example. It was still called county Forfar in the 1871 census returns. David Lauder 09:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Collegiate Church

Should there not really be a separate page for this establishment, from its Norman foundation by Ada de Warenne to collegiatism, and its present place as possibly the largest kirk in Scotland? Brendandh 00:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Make it happen. Deiz talk 03:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

POV

I have removed all the POV, and have trimmed down the extremely convoluted historical sections, which were extremely hard to understand and didn't make sense in some places. Tpacw (talk) 12:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blowmonkeys lead singer should be listed

Blowmonkeys lead singer Dr.Robert should be listed,born in Haddington,East Lothian.Real name-bruce Robert Howard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.101.53 (talk) 19:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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