Talk:Henry de Hinuber

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 17:50, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

I'll get to this shortly--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:50, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• Images appropriately licensed.
• Explain what a line battalion is in a note or something
  • Added link.
• the town was un-captured remained or rephrase entirely
  • Done.
• Prince Adolphus, Duke of Cambridge set this off with commas
  • Done.
• Books that lack an ISBN need an OCLC number
  • Added.
• Journals need an ISSN
  • Added.
• Add a link to Brownlee and what kind of thesis is it?
  • Annoyingly it's an MA, which I've added. I can't find a single other source that discusses this particular part of his career.
• Nicely done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:52, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
  • As per WP:SCHOLARSHIP, master's theses are not generally regarded as reliable sources. Can you find other works that are RS that have used Brownlee?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:03, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

    Honestly can't find anything on the topic in English full stop (apart from this Brownlee). I'm going to inquire whether there's anything available in German. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 19:19, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

    It is easy enough to confirm that Hinüber was on some of these committees and a bit about what they did. [1] (also on TWL) [2] (p. 12 footnote 49). This one looks good but I only get snippets: [3]. While Brownlee cites as sources some archival material, these reports actually appear to be mostly published (for example [4]) and searching for the dates mentioned (like this) probably gives something useful. With these links, I think everything but the "ten corps of 30000 men each" can be verified; I haven't found that yet (but I haven't put much energy into it so far). —Kusma (talk) 21:19, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

    Found it, p. 40 of the "Von Wien nach Königgrätz" book I linked to above (de Gruyter via TWL). So I think everything you need from Brownlee's thesis can be cited to the first two sources I mentioned. —Kusma (talk) 08:31, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

    @Kusma: Many thanks for coming to my aid so quickly. The Angelow in particular is a fantastic source! Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 20:52, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

    You're welcome. I'm happy to help with this kind of things any time. I've learned again how little I know: The existence of the German Federal Army had been news to me, and now I know how embarrassingly little I understand about the German Confederation. —Kusma (talk) 21:04, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

• @Sturmvogel 66: Thanks very much for taking up both Hinuber and Rebow! Responses above. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 15:06, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

  @Sturmvogel 66: With the gracious assistance of Kusma I've replaced all the Brownlee. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 20:53, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:42, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that the actions of Henry de Hinuber and his battalions during the Battle of Bayonne in 1814 reportedly "... saved the allies from a very terrible disaster"? Source: Napier, William (1882). History of the War in the Peninsula and in the South of France. Vol. 3. London: George Routledge and Sons. OCLC 1337805809. Page 448
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Improved to Good Article status by Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 02:00, 2 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Henry de Hinuber; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Hi Onegreatjoke (talk), review follows: article promoted to GA on 26 May and is very well written; entirely sourced offline but more than happy to assume there has been no overly close paraphrasing by an editor I know and trust; hook fact is interesting and mentioned in the article, the quote is sourced in the article and the speaker (William Francis Patrick Napier) given, not sure if we have to do this in the hook too, but will leave that up to the promoters; consider adding "Hanoverian general" and "1814" to give some context, but again happy to leave this for later preference; shame we don't have a painting of the man but I had a quick look and found nothing online; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 12:44, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
  • @Onegreatjoke and Dumelow: I do think the hook would benefit from context; when I read "the allies", I think of World War II (which is something DYK does cover quite often). theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:21, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

    Hi theleekycauldron and Onegreatjoke (talk), we could add "1814" before the battle or mention the Peninsular War? - Dumelow (talk) 08:01, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

    The former might be more generally accessible :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 08:01, 12 July 2023 (UTC)