Talk:Hilma af Klint

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Photo

The photo labelled "before 1900" I think can safely be dated earlier. The appearance is of someone in her twenties or at most in her early thirties (she would have been 32 in 1894), and the sleeves are the type of leg-of-mutton sleeve fashionable before 1900, so I think "circa 1890" is a pretty safe bet. Theonemacduff (talk) 23:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Necessary Correction

The Sentences: "However, the artistic transition to abstract art and the nonfigurative painting of Hilma af Klint would occur without any contacts with the contemporary modern movements." is from what Source? It's unassigned, seems to be a personal point of views, that has no evidence for an encyclopaedia, so it should be deleted, in particular, if we can read from her her grandnephew Johan af Klint "The movement that af Klint soon joined, however, shaped her and her work for years to come: Theosophy." at the Website of the Guggenheim-Museum (1). So the focuss shoud be more of that what you can read in almost every article about her and her work, that for her Theosophy was a primarily Source of Inspiration.

Also someone should add at the bottom, within the Categories, that she was a Theosophist. She joined the Theosophical Society, as you can also read within the referenced article (f.e.).

If there is no one to do this, I'll do this soon.

(1) https://www.guggenheim.org/blogs/checklist/inspiration-and-influence-the-spiritual-journey-of-artist-hilma-af-klint — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.195.215.179 (talk) 09:23, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Signature Style in the works of Hilma af Klint

While we have talked about Hilma's Legacy and her work but still there's no section for the unique style she brought in to the art world.

Although in the segment about her work, it has been mentioned that : "Quite apart from their diagrammatic purpose the paintings have a freshness and a modern aesthetic of tentative line and hastily captured image... her paintings call for interpretation on a narrative, esoteric and artistic level while evoking primordial geometry and humanistic motifs." still I believe that as an inventor or a proto-artist of abstract domain, her art needs a short but crisp analysis while discussing minutiae of her individual style. I am working on it and will be soon posting the same here. Let me know how to proceed about it and what things I need to take care while adding such section.

Chinmay (talk) 03:46, 18 October 2021 (UTC) SriSriChinmaya (SriSriChinmaya)

Hilma's will

"She specified that her work should be kept secret for at least 20 years after her death." – This is simply not true; nothing like it is mentioned in her will (here, in Swedish obviously: https://www.hilmaafklint.se/files/2020/10/Hafk-testamente.pdf). Hexmaster.se (talk) 23:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Tone of the article

The whole article is written as if the spirits that she saw guiding her work were objectively real. Unless there is citable scientific evidence for the existence of these "spirits", it should be edited to reflect the fact that this is the belief system reported in her writings and not objective fact. Even in an article about an artist and spiritualist, an encyclopedia should not sound as if "spirits" actually created something without citing evidence or making it clear that this was specifically the artist's view. Simply adding a citation reference to these statements is not enough. We don't want readers walking away thinking that a "Georg" did something, but that af Klint believed that he did it. I will begin making appropriate edits soon. Scyg (talk) 11:30, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

I agree that there are a few sentences that should be re-written. They recorded in a book a completely new system of mystical thought, in the form of messages from higher spirits called The High Masters ("Höga Mästare"). One, Gregor, announced, "All the knowledge that is not of the senses, not of the intellect, not of the heart but is the property that exclusively belongs to the deepest aspect of your being...the knowledge of your spirit" and As she became more familiar with this form of expression, Hilma af Klint was assigned by the High Masters to create the paintings for the "Temple" – however she never understood what this "Temple" referred to. and When Hilma af Klint had completed the works for the Temple, the spiritual guidance ended. all stand out. Moreover, a fair number of sentences state in the Wiki voice interpretations of her work as objective fact. Example Understood as gates to other dimensions, her paintings call for interpretation on a narrative, esoteric and artistic level while evoking primordial geometry and humanistic motifs. Bonewah (talk) 13:26, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Personal life

Hilma af Klint never married, lived only with women and prioritized deep friendships with them. She has not left any diaries, letters or rumors about romantic relationships. This has led to modern assumptions that she was queer or specifically lesbian, additionally claiming that her paintings, views on androgyny and gender fluidity (where are these written?) show queer sensibility. It is rumored that she kept her work secret for 20 years after her death, and comparisons made between her and Emily Dickinson, but this has proved to be untrue. Since she destroyed her correspondences and diaries, we know little about her personal or romantic life. 170.39.242.47 (talk) 16:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

• Can you provide a reliable source supporting the change which you are suggesting? Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 17:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  No but I would like to ask for a source directing us to her writings on androgyny and gender fluidity; otherwise, to please remove the part about her views on gender fluidity since they are not based on fact, only hearsay. 101stMonkey (talk) 17:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  It looks as though the source being cited for that is this one. I'm not entirely convinced by the reliability of that source, though. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 17:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)