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The recent history has been added to. However these are activities that occured in the 1980s and 1990s ( post Sobhuza era ). More still needs to be added such as the constitutional review commission and other events. A new section on the 2000s needs to be created as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ludvonga (talkcontribs) 23:31, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 23 October 2018

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved to "Eswatini" titles per the outcome of the move request at Talk:Eswatini. bd2412 T 01:22, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Consistency (WP:CONSISTENCY) with new page name (which has been deliberated over and successfully moved from Swaziland to eSwatini). Per the previous (speedily-moved) requested move for Flag of Swaziland to ...eSwatini, moving the pages to be consistent with the country's article title doesn't seem to be controversial. (Also, REDIRECTS should be created from the alternate capitalization of "Eswatini" for each of these pages.) There's also a bunch of categories with "Swaziland" in the name that would need to be moved to match the pages. Paintspot Infez (talk) 15:58, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Cptmrmcmillan (talk) 16:30, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This really just needs to be done, without the debate now the main article has been moved. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 16:59, 23 October 2018 (UTC)--John B123 (talk) 17:32, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Now the main country page has been moved to eSwatini, all other pages need to be moved to reflect this. I am also very surprised the name change made it given the opposition to Côte d'Ivoire and Timor-Leste.
  • Strong oppose. The WP:COMMONNAME is clearly Swaziland, not "eSwatini". Furthermore, "eSwatini" clearly violates English spelling rules and is not an English name (at the very least it would have to be spelled Eswatini). Are we going to move other countries to their local forms, e.g. Deutschland, Polska, Latvija, or does this (new) privilege to impose local forms in English language usage only apply to African countries? --Tataral (talk) 18:28, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • eSwatini has English an official language which makes this very different from those cases. English has many words with unusual capitalisation - a nearby case is KwaZulu-Natal. Timrollpickering 19:37, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • The fact that the English language has an official status in Swaziland, like in countless other countries, doesn't give Swaziland any authority over the English language, on a global scale. English is widely spoken in most European countries, to the extent that it could even be said to enjoy a semi-official status not that different from the status the language has in various African countries where the vast majority have other native languages. --Tataral (talk) 10:39, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominator's comment - while you raise good points, these moves are JUST for CONSISTENCY with the new page title (that's already been/being discussed thoroughly). These moves are just for consistency with the current article title. That's it. Paintspot Infez (talk) 12:22, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.