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Good articleHurricane Andres (2009) has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 2, 2009Good article nomineeListed

Rewrite

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Could I rewrite this article? It will be better than this. HurricaneSpin Talk My contributions 00:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What needs to be fixed, exactly? –Juliancolton | Talk 01:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not much, but this rather looks like a timeline, and I am thinking to have a sentence or more for every advisory and expand the impact section. HurricaneSpin Talk My contributions 01:24, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There's no reason to include every discussion for the sake of it; I've already incorporated most of them into the article, and any others would provide nothing more than trivial (and often redundant) details. And you can expand the impact section without completely rewriting it. –Juliancolton | Talk 01:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Todo

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  • Expand Impact section and Meteorological history section
  • Topic sentence need to be longer
  • Change "Mexico" in the storm box to specific places, including states.

HurricaneSpin Talk My contributions 04:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image

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[1] Cropped 250m image would look better. HurricaneSpin Talk My contributions 03:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New image avalible on [2]. HurricaneSpin Talk My contributions 06:58, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good find, added the better of the two images to both articles. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:01, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Andres (2009)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
"Hurricane Andres originated out of a tropical wave that entered the eastern Pacific basin on June 16 after crossing Central America." Reword completely
Seems fine to me. –Juliancolton | Talk 19:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It seems a tad weird. Say it crossed Central America first, then entered the Pacific. Leave Message, Yellow Evan home
It does... –Juliancolton | Talk 19:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
At this time, the National Hurricane Center (NHC) remarked upon the possibility for tropical cyclone formation." Reword "Based on this, this the National Hurricane Center (NHC) noted that there was a low chance less than 30 percent of becoming a tropical cyclone during the next 48 hours."
Not needed Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Around 1200 UTC the following day, the system had become sufficiently organized for the NHC to designate the low as Tropical Depression Two-E." Mention time in PT (ET -3). Also note that a tropical depression was forming before this sentence. See last TWO before forming.
Not needed Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Unitize Andres per WP:MOS
Not needed Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Several hours after being classified a depression, the system intensified into a tropical storm, at which time it received the name Andres". Reword
No Dont Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Upon being named, Andres marked latest date that the first named storm of a season developed since 1969 when Tropical Storm Ava developed on July 1 of that year." Merge with last sentence.
No dont.Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"However, strong wind shear, a factor that generally weakens tropical cyclones, had little effect on the developing storm." No need for this sentence
Why not? –Juliancolton | Talk 19:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes there is a need for this sentence Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Early the next day, the center of circulation became embedded within a central dense overcast and Andres intensified into a hurricane, the first of the season, around 0600 UTC." Mention PT time too.
No need Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"At this time, the storm attained its peak intensity with winds of 80 mph (130 km/h) and a minimum barometric pressure of 984 mbar (hPa; 29.06 inHg); the storm was located roughly 80 mi (130 km) southwest of Lazaro Cardenas, Mexico upon attaining this intensity." Note that operational peak was at 75 mph using one of the disc.
No - it encourges more vandals IMO Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"By 1200 UTC on June 24, the storm weakened into a tropical depression while situated roughly 100 mi (155 km) west of Cabo Corrientes, Mexico. Shortly after, the depression sharply turned north and opened into a trough of low pressure, no longer a tropical cyclone." Mention PT Time
No need Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"When a tropical cyclone, the NHC issued several watches and warnings for the Mexican coastline." Replace with "Before forming the NHC noted the possibility of Heavy rains and Life threatening Flash Floods." Source would be the last TWO prior to forming
No Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"The first was a tropical storm watch for areas between Zihuatanejo and Manzanillo on June 22." Reword to note it became a TS at this time,
No NeedJason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Schools throughout Colima were closed prior to the storm" Grammar, missing Period
There's no missing comma there. –Juliancolton | Talk 19:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Never said there was. I say Period. Leave Message, Yellow Evan home

Theres no missing full stop Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  1. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  2. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
Any impact in Guatemala
Where did its remains go?

I mean where did the broad remmenet low go

So it weakened strait to a wave? Leave Message, Yellow Evan home

Any waves in Mexico?
No report specifies waves Cyclonebiskit (talk) 19:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Any Impact in Baja?
  1. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  2. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
This is a problem, though it should fix itself unless it gets vandalized again.
Its minor Vandalism Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  1. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images havefair use rationales): b(appropriate use with suitable captions):
The image in the preps and impact should be remove due to the fact it is incomplete. No offense, but it is one of the worse images I have seen. Replace this with this
That image isn't free use. –Juliancolton | Talk 19:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Preps/Impact is complete Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

I am putting this on hold to allow the issues to be addresed. Leave Message, Yellow Evan home

Since YE did such a Shitty review without even reading the critera correctly or the article fully. I was asked to take over the review, I found a few spelling mistakes in the lead nd thus gave the whole article a copyedit. I think it now passes the critera for a GA. Passing GA Jason Rees (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Protect?

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I just saw that this article likes to be tortured (or vandalized). I need a protection request. The vandalizers are mostly IPs. Protect? Jeffrey Gu (contribs) 02:03, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 02:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Hurricane Andres (2009)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Content is good, but it needs an overall copyedit. ("When a tropical cyclone, the NHC issued several watches and warnings for the Mexican coastline." The NHC was a tropical cyclone?) –Juliancolton | Talk 19:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 19:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 18:30, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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