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Requested move 28 October 2024

It has been proposed in this section that Hurricane Oscar (2024) be renamed and moved to Hurricane Oscar.

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Hurricane Oscar (2024) → Hurricane Oscar – Meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC as there's alot of coverage compared to the other Atlantic Oscar storms and it's also the only Oscar storm that actually affected land and caused deaths (the other 2 were fish storms), It also has a few records too. SomeoneWiki04 (talk) 06:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – Oscar 2024 had no enduring notability, aside from its size, and no apparent long-term significance. Drdpw (talk) 13:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support – I'm not against the move but I can admit the reasoning for it is pretty weak. Tropical Storm Marco (2008) doesn't have the year removed despite being the smallest tropical cyclone on record because that was the only thing that made it notable. Oscar 2024 is no different and the only reason it's a support at all is because the other two Oscar's in the Atlantic never even impacted land. This Oscar does have a chance to have caused some significant damage in Cuba considering the power-outage crisis there which would give more credence to the move. Even then, I think if any kind of move happens that we oughta at least wait first. VantaWiki (talk) 14:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – Oscar probably won’t be retired after 2024, it was not significant like Beryl, Helene, or Milton and was mostly notable for its small size. AwesomeAndEpicGamer (talk) 17:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I disagree with the move as there is not much significant coverage concerning Hurricane Oscar and its impacts other than the damages left in Cuba and the Bahamas. Other than the record for being the smallest hurricane, there's no point in moving it to remove the year. tai (he/him) (talk) 21:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I don't think removing the year is helpful to readers, particularly in cases like these where the gap in significance is not especially large. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC does require "much more likely" usage and/or "substantially greater enduring notability", which are both difficult to assess so soon after the storm dissipated (see recency bias). For a storm like Helene, sure, no objection to removing the year even before the name gets retired, but Oscar ostensibly hasn't caused destruction on that sort of scale. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 23:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now. This iteration of Oscar looks to be the most significant as of this writing, but it is looking likely that the name will be reused again in six years' time (at the very least). And even ifone of Cuba, The Bahamas or Turks and Caicos (UK) would somehow request its retirement, I still think it will be more practical to retain the year; there's already a precedent for that: Hurricane Klaus (1990). Oscar does hold the record for being the smallest hurricane-strength tropical cyclone ever, but just like with Tropical Storm Marco (2008) – the smallest tropical cyclone of any strength – I think it will be better to retain the year. Vida0007 (talk) 01:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, Besides the particularly small size and timing, this storm will not be remembered. This is exacerbated by Cyclone Oscar and Typhoon Oscar trumping Hurricane Oscar in deaths. While not directly related, as hurricane is frequently conflated with tropical cyclone in general, at least in the United States, which makes my requirement for WP:PRIMARY higher. ✶Qux yz ✶ 01:31, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as $10 million in damage and 7 deaths are not nearly worthy enough to warrant a retirement. Haruka Amaranth 06:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]