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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 January 2019 and 10 May 2019. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Dyck9, Reagan young1, Robert Hawkins05, Btblomenkamp1. Peer reviewers: Austincross44, Christopher White 96.

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I suggest a reference in this article to the earlier practice of cooling foodstuffs in streams. I think these buildings were called coolinghouses, but I'm not sure.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.211.220.61 (talk • contribs) .

I know them as spring houses, but I have not yet found a good reference about them. If someone has something on them, that would be great. Tom Harrison ^Talk 23:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The second picture in the gallery

I have that model of icebox - the same locks, the same hinges, even the same figuring on the top door. It's made of ash, though, not oak. Did they make the same model of icebox out of different woods, or is this misnamed? (I suspect so, because that doesn't look like oak to me - too orange.) --NellieBly (talk) 02:52, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Use of past tense

I'm pretty sure that the icebox's obsolescence does not mean the past tense should be used. Iceboxes are replaced, not extinct, so it should be present tense whenever discussing iceboxes in general. I could be wrong about that, though… $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 02:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Icebox/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

A relatively good start but more needs to be done, such as more on history and phasing out due to modern technology. -- Warfreak 00:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 00:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 18:44, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Credit and Past Tense

I added to the 'Design' section a blurb crediting Thomas Moore to the invention of the Icebox in 1802. I also edited the section to be in the present tense. This was discussed previously in the talk page and I believe it is very fitting as Iceboxes still exist and should be discussed as such

Robert Hawkins05 (talk) 17:45, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Use of the word Icebox vs Refrigerator

I added to the opening statement to clarify the use of the word refrigerator and icebox both before and after the invention of the electric refrigerator. Btblomenkamp1 (talk) 18:20, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The impact of ice commercialization

I added a sentence explaining how the invention of the commercial icesaw impacted the icebox market and usage. This also helps with giving more concrete dates. Reagan young1 (talk) 19:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Adding section

I am adding a section about the origin of the icebox Reagan young1 (talk) 23:19, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Moving photo

Moving the victorian photo into the design section as they are more related Reagan young1 (talk) 23:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Additional information on the inventor

In the design section I'm adding more details about Thomas Moore and his initial design. Also adding more citations. \ Reagan young1 (talk) 23:30, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Changing use section to impact

I am changing the Use section into an Impact section. I am doing so because the Use section does not really pertain much information about how ice boxes were used. I have already moved some of the unrelated information in the Use section into the Origin section. Reagan young1 (talk) 23:37, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a section about ice industry

Adding a section called Ice Collection and Distribution. It details the process of getting ice for iceboxes and how the ice industry impacted the icebox industry Reagan young1 (talk) 00:53, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Adding to "Origin" section "History"

Adding in "History" to "Origin" subsection to distinguish from other sections Dyck9 (talk) 01:18, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Adding additional information to Origin/History section

Adding in more information about icebox manufacturing industry and innovation Dyck9 (talk) 01:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Adding in information about innovation from manufacturing industry

Adding in more information about icebox manufacturing industry brought upon air circulation. Dyck9 (talk) 01:26, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Making edits for clarity

I fixed some grammar, punctuation, and formatting errors. I also adding some keyword hyperlinks of related pages throughout the article. Reagan young1 (talk) 03:03, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't find another way to express this on the page - my bad I'm sure. There's a B&W photo dated as 1970. Surely this is 1907? 131.202.245.124 (talk) 15:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Reception paragraph

I removed the paragraph about the reception of the icebox. I feel it was too short and didn't tell the reader much about the icebox or how people in general received it. I think we can add that same information back in again at a later date with some expansions. Reagan young1 (talk) 03:14, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

Thank you for your comments about the Reception section. I whole heartily agree. In this talk page article, I have attached a second draft of the Reception section. You can also find section on my talk page.

Thomas Moore invited Thomas Jefferson to view his new invention, which he titled "Refrigerator."^[1] The Icebox was well received by Jefferson, and it is noted in his memorandum that he purchased one for himself.^[2] Ellen Coolidge, grand daughter of Thomas Jefferson, commented negatively about the effectiveness of the icebox in 1819. She commented that the icebox wasted ice, allowed butter to melt, and wine to be "above blood-heat."^[3] Refrigerators would later be added atop iceboxes in 1913^[4]^[5] but in 1914, Nathaniel B Wales would invent a self contained unit that would be known as the Kelvinator. Superior self contained refrigeration units would be mass produced in 1918 by the Frigidaire company for consumption.

Please feel free to add this to your own talk pages and make edits or additions as you see fit. Alternatively we can add it to the Impact and Legacy section. Robert Hawkins05 (talk) 16:44, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/thomas-moore
^ https://www.worldcat.org/title/jeffersons-memorandum-books-accounts-with-legal-records-and-miscellany-1767-1826/oclc/25629653
^ "Ellen W. Randolph (Coolidge) to Martha Jefferson Randolph, 24 Aug. 1819 | Jefferson Quotes & Family Letters"
^ http://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/828?_ga=2.234196638.1240632920.1554481454-1375427280.1552065921
^ https://books.google.com/books?id=fCRpUZzT2hMC&pg=PA350#v=onepage&q&f=false

Changes to the flow of Impact and Legacy paragraph

I reworded and moved some of the information around in the last section. All the same info is there but hopefully it flows a little better now. Reagan young1 (talk) 16:22, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The opening of the article gives no information on what an icebox is. It just talks about terminology.

"An icebox (also called a cold closet) is a compact non-mechanical refrigerator which was a common early-twentieth-century kitchen appliance before the development of safely powered refrigeration devices. Before the development of electric refrigerators, iceboxes were referred to by the public as "refrigerators". Only after the invention of the modern electric refrigerator did early non-electric refrigerators become known as iceboxes. The terms ice box and refrigerator were used interchangeably in advertising as long ago as 1848."

I know nothing about what an icebox is after having read that. 21fafs (talk) 16:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/thomas-moore

[2] ttps://www.worldcat.org/title/jeffersons-memorandum-books-accounts-with-legal-records-and-miscellany-1767-1826/oclc/25629653

[3] "Ellen W. Randolph (Coolidge) to Martha Jefferson Randolph, 24 Aug. 1819 | Jefferson Quotes & Family Letters"

[4] ttp://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/828?_ga=2.234196638.1240632920.1554481454-1375427280.1552065921

[5] ttps://books.google.com/books?id=fCRpUZzT2hMC&pg=PA350#v=onepage&q&f=false

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