Talk:Intrastate airline

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When did they originate? Which countries do they mainly operate in? Can you find some references? Le Sanglier des Ardennes (talk) 01:53, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

4thmuskateer a big problem with the page, as I see it, is that it is implicitly discussing only these airlines in the US, without directly saying so. Similar services are found globally. Incorporating this could make the whole article better/more generalised. Le Sanglier des Ardennes (talk) 01:11, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This page has serious issues.

"Intrastate airline" in the US context (I am unaware of any other meaningful context) has at least two meanings. There's the geographic sense of a carrier operating only within a single state, and then there's the legal sense of it referring to a carrier that, prior to US deregulation in 1979, escaped regulation by the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) by virtue of operating only within a single state.

For instance, Hawaiian Airlines, which certainly in the period prior to 1979, operated solely within the state of Hawaii, was still a CAB-regulated carrier. I believe this is because the CAB provided subsidies to Hawaiian for at least some of its existence. So, just because a carrier operated only within a single state did not mean it escaped regulation. It appears that Hawaiian chose to be regulated by the CAB so it could receive subsidies.

The distinction was important. Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA) in California was an example of legally intra-state - able to avoid CAB regulation, therefore undercut the established carriers and become a prominent low-cost carrier even before low-cost carriers, in general, could exist. Southwest Airlines was later established in Texas to mimic PSA and became incredibly prominent.

US airline deregulation occurred in 1979 in significant part because of the success of PSA and Southwest. So, again, the distinction between geographically intrastate and legally intrastate really matters. Enplaned (talk) 20:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also globally?

I removed the sentence that said, "Intrastate air carriers primarily operated in the United States but also elsewhere globally." That did not make sense. An airline was an intrastate airline if it only operated within one state. If the airline expanded its operations beyond the borders of one state, it wouldn't have been an intrastate airline anymore. Some former intrastate airlines did begin international service -- such as Hawaiian Airlines and Southwest Airlines, which operate international service today -- but they were no longer intrastate airlines when they did so. If, as De la Marck suggests above, other countries had their own equivalents of intrastate airlines that operated only within one state of their own country, I don't have any knowledge of them. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 20:58, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]