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Request for deletion

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If this article cannot be edited in a way that is fair and accurate, then I am requesting that it thus be deleted. The false information that the now inactive Britishfinance has disseminated continies to have an impact on the lack of fair and accurate reporting on this site in relation to Ireland's corporate tax policy. Duke Of Dirty Dancing (talk) 22:41, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I would agree with the above request, not just for the page itself but for the linked tax haven page which was also written by the user Britishfinance creating their own definitions of tax haven which Ireland can then be shown to comply with. 178.249.193.97 (talk) 19:36, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I actually think this article is very well written and researched. It is almost academic quality. The related tax haven article is even higher quality. The person who did the work, britishfinnce, is to be commended. The definitions presented are consistent with the current academic definitions, and I suspect the person is an academic, or has at least studied the topics academically. 176.61.10.79 (talk) 20:30, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think a more fitting page move would make sense Ireland as a corporate haven. "Tax haven" is a conclusion. But it can be a corporate haven without being a tax haven. One is about competition one is about breaking the law of some countries. CaribDigita (talk) 11:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The OECD tax haven definition can be something as simple as moving your money into a foreign bank account in a country where by law they are not obligated to report the deposit to your home country (and, indeed, where they're prohibited from doing so by privacy laws). But since this is a politicized topic of globalization (the free movement of capital), transparency-based definitions are never good enough for tax haven obsessives, who insist on a simplistic criterion of "low" effective tax rates (as to what "low" is, it seems to be whatever gets decided by a political process).
I don't know how academic this article is -it cites some economic research, and a lot of journalism, and journalism citing economic research. On the other hand, the economists who are front and center in this piece are the usual suspects (the ones who write pop-economics books about "reforming capitalism" and are actively engaged in trying to influence public policy). Some of this page does sound overblown though -at one point the editor writes "Irish education does not appear to be distinctive," and backs this up with statements about a "decline" in Ireland's "leading universities." I suppose he couldn't find any sources referencing Ireland's PISA scores -Ireland ranks 11 in mathematics, 11 in science and 2 in reading. That's higher than Italy, Germany, France, UK and the U.S. on all 3 subjects, which sounds distinctive to me considering where most of this 'tax haven' criticism is coming from. The reason why the US has so many leading universities but scores poorly relative to other countries is because there's a lot of education inequality here. When we measure inequality between different US states, we don't count the number of leading universities they have......we use test scores.
Overall, I do think this subject meets notability standards for its own article, and I do think "britishfinance" covered the subject as best he could (and it must be said -that's a rather interesting name for someone so interested in this). But I also think a case could be made that some of this content is a bit too much. The section on education seems overkill at best and misleading at worst (he even put up a pic of UCD on the side!). Jonathan f1 (talk) 22:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have the time to look at this in detail now, but my easy rule is "Unless a source mentions the subject of this article "XXXXXXX" than it is disallowed WP:SYNTH to relate it to this topic." So unless the sources in the education section speak about additional money Ireland has gained from "tax haven status" and spent on education that will no longer be available or somehow otherwise relates, then this should be removed. ---Avatar317(talk) 22:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Table 1

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The article refers to "table 1" at several points, however, it appears to have been edited out at some point, and either needs to be restored or the links removed. Jokojis (talk) 22:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]