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POV, e.g. "resisted the Japanese invasion to the best of their abilities". Article also did not include a well-sourced statement concerning the Japanese occupation from another article, Battle of Hong Kong. Aran|heru|nar 03:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I took the liberty to do a major round of repair. The wording needed a little fixing but the sources are there. The issue as with any wikipedia page is that book references are almost always just listed as a source, whereas websites are linkable footnotes. Reading this article in depth, the point-of-view is practically the POV of the 3 book sources. Benjwong 06:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Resistances

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This page is a mess, especially the bit about the resistance, which includes a variety of unsourced statistics and other such things. I'm sure there are sources out there; someone more qualified than I should put them in the article. Woodstein52 06:41, 4 Sept 2006 (UTC)

Only the person who input this info would have the original source. Instead of declaring the entire page unsourced, maybe dig into the page history for the user that input that particular information. Benjwong 06:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the tip, and the lecture. Unfortunately, I don't always have time for this sort of thing. I was kind of hoping that the person who had not cited the information might see what I had written and realize the mistake they had made. And please don't treat me like I'm stupid. Thanks. Where Anne hath a will, Anne Hathaway. 04:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Charities section removed

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After the occupation of the Japanese, charitable activities were highly restricted. Although a fund which may be translated as "Far East Foundation Fund" was set up to collect donations, it was regarded as a means to collect money for the Japanese government, instead of providing welfare services for the Hong Kong people. The Bishop and the Chinese Representatives' Association, as organisers of charitable activities for relief of the poor, demanded assistance from the government. In September 1942, the Japanese governor Isogai promised to accept their suggestion. The implementation of this suggestion involved money from the Far East Foundation Fund being given to the governor first, and then transferred to a relief fund for the local people of Hong Kong. This was seen as a credit to Japanese administrative policy.
With the assistance of the Far East Foundation Fund, an association which may be translated as "Chinese Charity Association" was set up to organise fundraising and distribution work. In order to promote charity activities, a fundraising committee was established which created a network of donation movement. It selected famous people from trade unions to be the leaders of the fundraising groups. They were then asked to choose members to join their group and to help with activities. These members then took donations from different social strata so as to raise as much funds as possible. The activities also included propaganda works which promoted the program. This mass donation movement finally resulted in a collection of 55500 military yen (MY). Besides this, there were also charitable football competitions and drama performances which donated all of their profits for the Chinese Charity Association. The fund raising activities were continued in the following years.

The above section was removed from charity section. This section may come from “东亚建设基金”, a book named《日占时期的香港》pg 126 and 128. ISBN 962-04-1105-6 or “华民慈善总会” according to old zh.wiki discussions. The book does exist but the person who self translated the info did not put up the reference here or any other language.wiki. I don't know why. Benjwong (talk) 18:08, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recent deletions

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In this series of edits, User:STSC has removed several links from the "See also" section, removed the JapanEmpireNavbox, and removed Category:World War II occupied territories|Hong Kong, among other, minor edits. These were reverted by me, then reinstated by STSC with this comment "rm duplicated wikilinks & category; rm irrelevant nav box; general ce". As far as I can see, none of the removed wikilinks were duplicates, nor was the category a duplicate, nor is the Japanese Empire irrelevant to to the Japanese occupation of Hong Kong (though I admit that I am not too familiar with the actual usage of navboxes and categories). I hope that STSC will take this opportunity to engage in the "discuss" portion of the "Bold, revert, discuss" process, (even if there have already been 2 reversions), and I invite others to comment as well.--Wikimedes (talk) 19:44, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's been a week and no one seems interested in talking. Most of the see also links removed by STSC were in fact already mentioned in the article, so I've left them out of the see also section per Wikipedia Manual of Style [see also], and only readded comfort women. I've also readded the navbox and category, as they seem pretty clearly relevant to the article, and modified one sentence for grammar and length. I hope this is acceptable to all.--Wikimedes (talk) 19:30, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

use of English

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I just added the prefix "At some schools," to the sentence "English could not be taught nor was it tolerated outside the classroom." The listed source, on page 134, states the above sentence exactly, but the book's source, in turn, is a single interviewee recounting his experience at his school. It's not like I find this claim unlikely, but it needs a better source. I was also confused by this statement a few paragraphs after this: "The Japanese promoted a bilingual system of English with Japanese as a communication link between the locals and the occupying forces." So was English forbidden or not? Should this last sentence instead read that the Japanese discouraged English names and promoted Japanese names? Tarcil (talk) 16:15, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed that the content is self-contradictory. Rather than using 'some schools', which is a bit of an OR assumption, I've changed it to "According to a testimonial" and have tagged in for a better source in order to clarify whether it was a general attitude/policy. It's bit of a mess without sources to qualify how locals were supposed to use English and Japanese if they weren't allowed to speak English. Again, I can only work on OR supposition that English was tolerated for communication where knowledge was pre-existing amongst the older generation, but the upcoming generation was being groomed to speak Japanese alone with a view to phasing out English altogether.
As regards names, it's also unclear. I hate tag-bombing articles, but I think a couple more requests for sources and clarifications are needed. If it doesn't make sense to us, I don't see that the content could be of any use to a reader expecting information that makes sense. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:37, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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bad translation and/or summarization?

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What, pray tell, is a "detained terrain"? I see dozens of hits on Google searching seemingly ALL coming from Wikipedia. I have never heard this term(s) before - can someone provide a better phrase? The Japanese treated HK as a militarily occupied, hostile territory that they ruthlessly exploited without regard for civil decency or protection of civilians lives, let alone their property. Whatever "detained terrain" is supposed to denote, it doesn't work, and at best it is clumsy. Thanks. 50.111.14.58 (talk) 02:25, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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