Talk:John Adikes Bond

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I've added references. Is this sufficient to remove the "references required" tag? Do the references give enough material to satisfy the notability requirement? Burkr (talk) 22:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article is still too much like a resume. The sections on real estate, politics, law, and land development all seem extraneous. Each on it's own does not raise the person above WP:BIO. I am assuming the main claim to notability is as a poker player and writer, and so references should address those areas. Additional references such as reviews of the books on poker (that are in WP:RS), would help. If the article was reduced to just the poker/writing, with perhaps a smaller section containing all the extra stuff, then I would think that the references would be sufficient for that.Tassedethe (talk) 14:46, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John Bond's role as one of the primary developers of Atlantis (later Six Flags Atlantis) would be at least as important as books authored, I think. Atlantis was South Florida's largest theme park and impacted the South Florida commerce, landscape, media, and residents in a postive way. Wikispish (talk) 03:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If this is the case then this should be emphasised at the beginning of the article. At the moment it introduces him as a poker player and writer, then mentions his pilot's license and membership of Mensa. The developer stuff is right at the end and is poorly referenced. The trademark information does not aid WP:BIO requirements. Tassedethe (talk) 09:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've rewritten the page to (hopefully) make it less like a resume and emphasize the author and real estate developer aspects. Unfortunately there is not a lot available on line referencing Atlantis, the Water Kingdom, but I've got the main bits I think. I've also added references to book reviews on a number of the books he's written.

Burkr (talk) 20:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John Bond became a member of PADI (Professional Association of Diving Instructors) as a Divemaster on July 22, 1983. He became an Open Water Scuba Instructor on August 15, 1983, a Master Scuba Diver Trainer on April 3, 1984 and a Master Instructor on August 26, 1985. On July 20, 1986 John achieved the pinnacle of our organization by earning the PADI Course Director (instructor trainer) rating. He was recognized for his 20 years of PADI membership in the second quarter 2004 edition of the Undersea Journal, a publication for PADI professionals worldwide. All of the preceding information was verified through PADI's member database by Johnny Wetzstein, Director of Training at PADI Americas headquartered in Rancho Santa Margarita, California, USA. --JOHNNYWCA (talk) 22:12, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your efforts to improve this article. I have removed the tags I added. Tassedethe (talk) 07:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]