Talk:John Mateer (poet)

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Arts and Entertainment

	Biography portal This redirect is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This redirect is supported by the arts and entertainment work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Australia: Western Australia / Perth / Literature Low‑importance

	Australia portal John Mateer (poet) is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
Low	This redirect has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This redirect is supported by WikiProject Western Australia (assessed as Low-importance).
	This redirect is supported by WikiProject Perth (assessed as Low-importance).
	This redirect is supported by WikiProject Australian literature (assessed as Low-importance).
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia, or the State Library of Western Australia.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

Poetry Low‑importance

	Poetry portal This redirect is within the scope of WikiProject Poetry, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of poetry on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoetryWikipedia:WikiProject PoetryTemplate:WikiProject PoetryPoetry articles
Low	This redirect has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

It is requested that a photograph be included in this article to improve its quality.
The external tool WordPress Openverse may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Upload

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians, I have just modified one external link on John Mateer. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110927162029/http://www.litnet.co.za/cgi-bin/giga.cgi?cmd=cause_dir_news_item&cause_id=1270&news_id=2941&cat_id=178 to http://www.litnet.co.za/cgi-bin/giga.cgi?cmd=cause_dir_news_item&cause_id=1270&news_id=2941&cat_id=178

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs. This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 08:29, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 11 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved first, not moved second and crete a disamb page for the two. (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 14:52, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

John Mateer → John Mateer (poet)
John Mateer (musician) → John Mateer

– I am suggesting these article name changes for relevance. The current John Mateer article is a stub about a poet whereas the article for John Mateer (musician) has exponentially more traffic (John Mateer (musician averaging 38 views per day this year — whereas the John Mateer article receives about 1 view a day). The article for John Mateer also remains a stub while the article John Mateer (musician) has been developed further. Furthermore, the subject of the current John Mateer article is solely a poet — making the disambiguation of “poet” very appropriate for this subject. However, the subject of the John Mateer (musician) article is a filmmaker and businessperson as well — with his musical career being only one aspect of hi biography.

For these reasons, I suggest moving the subject of the current John Mateer article to the new title “John Mateer (poet)” and moving the John Mateer (musician) article to the “John Mateer” title — respectively. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 18:22, 11 May 2023 (UTC) Support - I guess this goes without saying, but figured I might as well include it for the sake of formality. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 19:01, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No need to support own proposal In ictu oculi (talk) 07:45, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination and would alternatively support creation of the John Mateer disambiguation page that would list John Mateer (poet) as well as John Mateer (musician). —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:47, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"John Mateer is" but no opinion. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:44, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
John Mateer is — that result would be more accurate as it is a search performed under the “all” tab.

When discussing the level of notability of a musician against a poet.. I’d imagine conducting a search specifically under the “books” tab would present a bit of a bias.

Don’t you think? 4theloveofallthings (talk) 07:55, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support 1st, oppose 2nd and create a disambiguation page at the base name. Not sure that there is a primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:12, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Upon researching further, there is also a rising college football player in Washington with the same name. So this discussion might end up just repeating itself at a later date should we declare someone the primary subject. So, I would completely support the disambiguation page suggestion. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 19:11, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.