Talk:Jones Very

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Good article

I really appreciate how well-cited this article is. It seems, to me, a great example of a solid Wikipedia entry. --66.30.117.67 (talk) 00:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! It took a lot of work to get it to this point - serious discussions of Very's life and work are hard to come by. Even with all the scouring I did, the last few years of his life (really, the last couple decades) are virtually unexplored in this article. I hope to find more some day! --Midnightdreary (talk) 01:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd endorse a GA nomination as well if the "Critical assessment" section didn't end with Channing, Dana and Griswold. Aren't there any more recent voices? --Janneman (talk) 18:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC) Uh, it's got GA already, well, for the upcoming FA nomination then. --Janneman (talk) 18:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Critical Assessment

I added a paragraph, largely as a response to User Janneman's remark above, on the reassessment of Very initiated by Yvor Winters and William Irving Bartlett in the last century.Tristan noir (talk) 03:31, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good at first glance. Thanks so much for adding it. --Midnightdreary (talk) 04:38, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Midnightdreary. The Deese introduction offers a broad overview of Very’s modern reception from Winters & Bartlett until the date of publication (1993), particularly pp xxxviii-xlv. I was hesitant to include more but you may wish to review Deese in order to determine if more detail is justified. This article is balanced and well-sourced; I see from the edit history that you've devoted much labor to it. Congratulations. I wonder only if addition of a Very sonnet might be justified? “The Hand and Foot,” if so, might be representative.Tristan noir (talk) 05:56, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we shouldn't make judgment calls on what constitutes representative work here (that violates NPOV and OR policies), and we don't usually include that stuff here anyway. But Wikisource is a sister project that collects public domain or works which are otherwise copyright free. It would be nice to have a full page for Very's works there. --Midnightdreary (talk) 03:25, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point. "Sample" might have been a better choice of words than "representative." I've seen quotations of a poet's work on other pages (see Robert Bridges, for example). For that reason, I believed the practice acceptable as long as presentation was neutral and the example was selected from work in the public domain as is Very's. It's a minor point, anyway, and the absence of a sample doesn't detract from what is a good article.Tristan noir (talk) 04:11, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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