Talk:Kabarett

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Distel

"Die Distel. It was censored and did not criticise the state."

Why was it censored then? 78.52.233.51 (talk) 18:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because it was in the GDR. Everything was censored there. Regards So Why 18:35, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To make sure it won't criticise the state which it would have without being censored! The performers had to hand in their texts and the censor approved or denied the whole text or parts of it before the show started. If a 'Kabarettist' dared to ignore this he/she was arrested. 89.50.29.240 (talk) 05:55, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Die Distel, even censored, did criticise the state. In Eastern Germany the state was part of almost every aspect of society, therefore almost every criticism was a criticism of the state. Kabarettists had to be very sensitive about what they criticised and how. The more famous they got the more leeway they had. Comparable to the famous George Carlin. He was (and will be for a long time) the only American able to say what he said without being butchered by the media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.91.225.171 (talk) 15:59, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Adding bias tag as the article only talks about Kabarett and entirely disregards the art form in Austria, which was established in the same time as in Germany and is a key part of Austria's Theatre Scene.

The article didn't Mention Austria at all and made it sounds like Germany invented the Kabarett, when it really was inspired by France and was established in Austria and Germany at the same time, however the article only talks about Germany and not about Austria. For reference, the same article on the German Wikipedia page has large entire subsections explaining the development of Kabarett in Germany and Austria.

This article needs serious rework as it is heavily biased towards Germany right now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.46.157.203 (talk) 02:41, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have to support the previous contributor, although the supposed “bias towards Germany” is also imperfect as it ignores the importance of political cabaret and its role in today's society.

I am German and do not really know a lot about Austrian satire. In Germany, political balance in the media is a real concern, since the end of WW2. There are organisms and committees trying to maintain a just balance in order to avoid letting one political orientation dominate the media. However, this is not always possible. Political satire is a necessity as it oftentimes succeeds to straighten things out. It has a function. Example: Political cabaret is so important that lawsuits are fought and won by satirical TV shows against politicians who would not need too much coverage of their issues, all the time.

This aspect is totally missing in the article (as well as in the reviews of German satire shows on YouTube). –ꟼsyc^ho ㄈhi¢ken 😭 (talk) 09:18, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]